looking for info to id a skidder I bought says garrett cancar on front and has a ford 4 cyl gas motor guy said he thought it was a c4 any help would be greatly appreciated .
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=51514.0 Here is a link, hope its useful
Post a picture or two if you can. The 172 Fords were used in many of the Can Cars and also in the C4 Tree Farmers. The early C4s still had the Can Car label on them. Does it have the heavy metal hood and guards or is it just a standard sheet metal hood like a tractor with a guard in front of the radiator.
looks similar to this one
Old Garret It appears to be an early C4. The earliest ones had a Gearmatic model 8 winch that was PTO driven off the transmission. These used the transmission for reverse and had a simple chaindrive gearbox fastened to the back axle. A drive shaft with a long spline to accomondate it getting shorter when turning ran from the back rearend to the front one. The later ones had a transfer case that drove the "big" Gearmatic Model 9 winch and they had a reverser in the transfer case. The transfer case was shaft driven by a 8" or so long driveshaft of the transmission. Both had the winches located on the front half of the machine. The early ones with a transfer case normally had a warning sticker saying to not use reverse in the 4 speed transmission. Later they used a transmission with no reverse in it. Here is a couple of pictures of an early Garret/Can Car that resides in my toy shed waiting its turn to get spruced up. Some folks report to have 192 Ford engines in there C4 Tree Farmers/Can Cars but I have never seen anything but the 172 Industrial commonly called the Red Tiger in them or listed in any of the old Can Car books. As you can see in picture 1 and 2 the early ones simply used the standard power unit hood and grill. The exhaust ran up the right canopy tube exiting at the back of the canopy. The long straight pipe really made them cackle and was also good for a burnt hand when you grabbed it to climb on if not careful. You can see where the exhaust intake has been cut off on the bottom of the canopy tube in the last picture when some previous owner installed a muffler.