Getting ready to change out the transaxle lube in 580K phase 1. Book calls for Case MS-1317. Do I have to buy the lube from the dealer? I can't find anything other than botique synthetics that are spec'd as replacements for MS-1317. I could have sworn someone (Alrman?, Ando?) on here said 85/140 would be fine, but my memory isin't perfect, and I can't find the post. A Local (former) heavy equipment mechanic says get the 85/140 and some friction modifier from NAPA and I'll be fine. What do you folks think/know?
85/140 won't do the job. I'm not sure about any friction modifiers that are readily available that would work either. Any other sort of "recommended" oil I have seen for this, is a lot thinner than the Case product. I would recommend going to the dealer on this one.
Thanks for the info. Looks like we're going back to the mothership for this juice.
The early backhoe's up to the 580E used the 90w gear oil, 580E up to s/n 17032504 used the 85w/140, after s/n 17032504 580E and phase 1 580K used the case trans-axle fluid which was for the wet brake system, it holds between 20-22 qt. Due to the cost of the brake parts, brake adjustments should be done by the book and lube changes are a must at least once a year or more if high hours of use. Also I would only use the case fluid due to issues that may show up with the brake disc material bonding and chatter.
Thanks Sheepfoot! That will make a nice searchable answer for the next guy. I wasn't too concerned about the gears - it's a farm hoe, enjoying it's later years often in a pasture. However, I certaintly don't want brake stuff delaminating! The old fluid doesn't look good at all. It has some water in it. Would you flolks recommend a diesel flush, or would that possibly eat at the brake lining glue (if they are glued on)? One thing I have going for me since I don't need the machine daily is time. I could leave it drained for a week with some light heat in it (40 watt drop light?). I don't know how the water got in. It's got a cab. I'll make some room in the shed for it from now on. After replacing one of my tractor's sump lube a few years ago due to water, I'm very careful to keep good shift boots on equipment and store it inside if at all posible.
Does anyone know right off the reminded type of oil for the rear diff oil change for a Case 1997 Series 1 580L? Book shows MS 1317 which was written in the 90s.