I need to haul ag lime, so I need to buy an end dump trailer. Its just finely ground limestone. I have several tractors, just need a trailer. Low mileage, probably less than 150 loads/year. 1/2 of the mileage will be rock/gravel roads, dumping will be in fields. Length isn't important, Kansas suspends bridge law for quarry products. Suggestions/things to stay away from/things that are important?
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Bottom dump maybe easier no hydraulic plumbing cab needs a power switch vs a 40 ft end dump in a soft field could be fun with the wrong driver
Cross gate belly dump. Do your hauling and spreading at the same time. Ha!
Belly dumps are what they generally use around here. It's nice to have a loader at the dump location to keep it piled up so it's not scattered all over.
That's fascinating. So do they just give you a max per-axle weight? The ag lime hauler I grew up with in iowa, always used dump trucks with dump pup trailer. The guys hauling sand and lime out of arkansas here, use short aluminum end dump frameless trailers with a tandem and two cheater steerable axles, look like around 36' trailers. Liner on the sides and bottom really helps. If the bridge doesn't matter, I'd buy as short of a trailer as I could. But I'm a bad driver.
That's a million dollar question. I know a lot of guys here, just owner operators, with one truck, and more wagons than my wife has shoes. Belly dumps for highway jobs, end dumps for stock piling, belt unloaders for hauling asphalt. 2 or 3 different log trailers with or without a loader, maybe a flatbed for side work, then they say they don't make any money.
I have an old neighbor friend like that. Pete never met a trailer that he didn't like.
I see most of our ag lime deliveries come on a 4 axle lead dump. Sometimes they bring a 4 axle pup too, not always. Steel frame with aluminum dump body. The same guys hauling ag lime in the spring are currently hauling corn to the ethanol plant during the summer. Lots of options for future use. Picture via Google, representative of what I see locally:
Hauled Ultra Fine Lime in a 40' Tub and a 30' Square Side, both did alright as to full roll over tarp for the dust control and weight, Preferred the Square side as less problem with mounding while loading and interfering with tarp bows or tarp. Quarry loaders seem to take great joy in screwing with Truck Drivers, at least around here, shoveling a load away from interference is a Major PITA. Shorter seems a more common choice for Maneuvering and Framed style for less apt to be SLIGHT angle off Flat tipping concerns.
End dumps are ok on hard flat ground- on soft uneven ground not so much
Even dump trucks fall over
Yes they do..---just had one locally end up on it's side.
Forgot to drop the air bags?
Dad never did and always claimed he could dump anywhere...... til there
Not dumping bags changes geometry in a hurry. Also appears Raining, Wet is NOT your friend in any Dump Wagon.
Also appears to be a hole or a slope
Several problems noted, dealt with similar where did NOT raise bed full up too readily. Wet or really damp load, allowed it to peel off as gravity would take it where was bridging in bed nose, Soft area where dumping, worked to keep OFF softer spots, always looking as to lean, truck I was using had Spring Suspension, not wanting load on Downhill side to hang and always worked to dump Downhill. Learned quick Spread loads moving Uphill much as possible. Major concerns, Trees and Low Limbs.
Unloading grain can be tricky too. On slightly sloping ground, unloading into a grain auger causes the grain to come off the higher side first, thereby causing the lower side to lean even more. The problem is that the load has to be hoisted to about 30 degrees and held as the grain slowly feeds into the grain auger. Even with the air bags dumped, the lean can be disconcerting. A lot of old farmyards were on sloping ground
Colson, I've seen your weight laws. Pretty much if you can put enough ponys in front of it and enough axles under it, weight really doesn't matter. Found this one close by. Any comments? 2001 BEALL END DUMP For Sale in Elm Creek, Nebraska 2001 BEALL END DUMP For Sale in Elm Creek, Nebraska at MachineryTrader.com. Delivery Available www.machinerytrader.com
Quarter frame end dump less forgiven, can't tell if both axles stay on the ground or just the rear make sure your 5th wheel blocked
Pretty fair assessment. We don't hardly see frameless dump trailers here unless they're out of state boys hauling something in like corn gluten. That usually comes from Illinois, about a 3-4 hour drive from us.
1999 aluminum for $13,000? 1999 24 foot end dump $13,000 Listed 5 hours ago 5 hours ago in Shirley, AR trailer has liner , also new auto tarp that i have not installed yet call [hidden information]
Is a reason has not installed that tarp, takes three to five people to do that and almost a class in electrical engineering. Frameless, 25 years old, these were bad for cracking at pivots early in life, corrosion the other elephant in the room with how long the liner has been in it and how much left overs are still under it
I-35 in oklahoma... .
If your going to do it-------------------------DO IT BIG.
How do these morons NOT Know the PTO is still engaged or that the bed is headed Up?? Does make a statement as to strength of Signs support!
You would think it would pull differently or you would notice something ?
One look in the mirror should have done it
We lost a PTO pump on one of our live bottom silage trucks last fall because the driver left it engaged when leaving the pit and drove back to the field. He shifted the control to neutral to stop the chain but left the PTO engaged. There is no warning light on this truck to let you know PTO is engaged. He didn't realize he had left it on until he went to unload again. About fifteen minutes of it running with the valve in closed position burned the pump right out of it. It says right in the operation manual of the new pump to not leave PTO engaged with control lever in neutral as it builds pressure and heat in pump with nowhere to release it.
Oh come on guys---just how many trucks do you think are running around with a pto warning light that doesn't work? For that matter how many with no interlock/ locker warning that works? * But If a person is aware--they will notice on a manual trans it's hard to get into gear from neutral with PTO engaged. With a AMT you just drive along and roast it.
What's the guess of this having a operational pto warning light or even a light at all? *
Out of our 6 trucks with PTO, none have functional PTO indicator light. The two others that I owned didn't have it either. I am pretty sure all of our trucks have a functional indicator light for the interaxle lock though. Mostly by luck because I know zero effort has been put forth to make sure they work.
Call me Anal Fixed the KW indicator for the air shift pto on the dash.
It probably has a cable . My stuff all has cable pull ptos . Like you said you can tell by the way the trans works that the pto is engaged.
Mine shuts the pto off when you lower the bed. It's a little bit of a pain if the bed needs lowered spreading rock. I've left the pto on with the old controls. Never left the bed up, don't really see how that can happen.