The dumpster at work was stacked with bags 2 feet or more over the top then some one dumped a 55 gallon drum of lose papers on top of that. Its setting out side on the top of a hill were its very windy. This isnt the first time this person has done this or been told about it I am not proud of what i said to the person that did this.
It's ok to rag on him if he is that ignorant. Someone should tell him to clean up the mess or find a new job.
Don't loose sleep over Old Doug. I uped a person one time. They said I was intimidating them. My reply was " ***king good, you're listening then". Never had a problem after that.
Maybe they wanted a ticker tape parade?
Have it fill this out and explain to HR why it can't form a cognitive thought.
I'm the Supervisor of the maintenance department for a local municipality. One morning one of my employees backed into a fence and did $2000 worth of damage to it. I happened to be checking a job in progress about 20 minutes after it happened and saw it. I waited 24 hours for the employee to report it. He didn't. I confronted him with the Shop Steward the next day and he kept making excuses on why he didn't tell me. I sent him away and discussed with the Shop Steward what the penalty should be. I went to tell the employee on the decision and he started with the excuses again and said I was blowing it way out of proportion. I lost it too, told him to shut the F up and listen to what I had to say. He immediately said he felt intimidated. I was stunned and said "WHAT????" He replied he felt threatened. "Dude, I haven't said anything to you that is remotely threatening" A few hours later I was called into H/R and reprimanded. H/R was initiated just a few months ago and I think I was her first case. Quite an introduction to the H/R rep, I learned that I've been managing personnel all wrong for all these years....
I was lucky i all most poked him with my finger when i told him who would clean up this mess. If my job had a H/R i would be on vacation.
There's always this line here
Ask him if he'd prefer to get written up instead of you talking to him. Since it's a 2nd offence tell him 3 strikes he's out as in fired.
I try to always be fair, and it takes a lot to get me upset. Over they years I have had a few people get under my skin. After numerous times of telling the same person not to do the same thing, I sent her outside. Not to come back inside all day. After a couple hours of picking up things and cleaning she started back in the house. I met her just inside the door, and calmly sent her back outside. Told her that I could have her on a plane back home if she didn't like it. You can't do that, as I pulled my phone out to call to get her a ticket she decided that maybe she would listen. It is very tough to not loose control when you are working with stupid people with no common sense.
Did this work in the long run it sounds like she was more than a employee? If some thought was given when some one wasI hired like in my case and some one would have held his hand for a few weeks to make sure he understood what was what about the dumpster then if he still didnt get it let him go.
There is one item left out of funwithfuel report card. Bed wetter's--most our drivers are bed wetter's.
Hire slow, fire fast. I feel intimidated. Good, you should feel stupid and apologetic as well. A company that hires an HR person is direct evidence that they don't know how to handle their employees.
Well then, no sleeper/team driver opportunity for them. Keep them in the daycabs.
Your average HR person is just an enabler that helps the whiner continue his life of making others pay for their unjust life that they themselves built. HR Enabler-is no different than one who gives a bottle to a alcoholic.
Some HR is really good and basically acts like a union steward to treat the employee fairly. Problem is most HR suck up to the company.
Tell them if you don’t work here any more you won’t be intimidated again
One thing a person has to remember, 99% of people/workers carry a I-phone. If said lazy/worthless person is trying to push buttons you have a 50% chance they will have their cell phone on video recording the whole scene with video and audio. If your videoed even slightly making any snide remarks or any kind of in their space gestures. It's probably not going to play well for you. Everyone has embraced it and now get to live with it-----------Welcome to the hand held electronic surveillance age. America wanted it and we got it--you can't even take a crap without someone catching it on a video-entering and leaving.
When I asked "How stupid can people get?" - it was a rhetorical question FFS. It was NOT intended to start a competition..................
I have listened to people complain about working at my place of employment in the past. I might listen once to understand their thoughts / grievances. However, once they become a repeat offender I just tell them to find another job if they dislike it so much. Its an employ 'at will state', we can hire you and fire you at will. That being said, their is the door feel free to exit whenever you like. Those repeat offenders even boycotted a free pizza party provided by the owner once. What is this 'kinde-garten'? I often wonder how we have become so sissyfied as a society. The dumpster over loader needs to be responsible for cleaning up his mess. The fence destroyer needs to be responsible for repairing the damage. I honestly think he needs to be fired for poor character/morals. But be sure to say it in a nice way....
You hurt my feelings with the FFS.
I no longer have employees. The rules around severance pay here make me shiver and lose sleep at night.Why should you give some guy that just cost you a bunch of a cash a bag full of your hard earned savings?? Lucky foir them you cant give them a bill! I hire through other companies i work with and pay their charge out rate when i need help, i get good guys as needed we do jobs and go our separate ways at the end ,just not cheap as hiring under your own roof (maybe ?).As John C said hire slowly and fire hard . The new broom always sweeps clean ,sometimes for quite a while. Once they ***ck up and wreck my stuff or burn up my cash i see red real fast and the firing is hard. I know now this isnt good in todays world of instant recording so i guess ill play it this way until freedom 85.Working in the bush in my younger years made my HR skills a bit blunt.
My post #18-That happened to a parts man I dealt with-he ended up losing his job. Was told he needed anger management. I ended up loosing a good parts man to call.
I was a 1st line salaried manager for SW Bell and then AT&T. I had various installation and repair crews, anywhere from 8 to 12 people in two different cities at two different times in my career. Every crew I supervised always had one person that took up 90% of my time. If they moved on, someone else stepped up in their place. They were CWA union which I had absolutely no issue with, I respected the guys (and I had one girl in one of my crews) but I did expect a good day's work in a quality manner according to published specs. I was no office jockey since I had done that job in the USAF and then as an hourly guy. My manager was always after me to suspend one of my guys but it was an absolute last resort for me. It was my job to train, encourage and provide the tools to succeed, however some never respond and I sent one guy home for two or three days. I had one tech that was such a customer relations disaster I kept him in the shop refurbing equipment. Thankfully I found a staff job, not having direct reports was wonderful, a 10 or 12 hour work day dropped to 8 hours.
I have one approach I use daily in the shop--mainly with drivers. {no driver gets preferential treatment} everyone gets the same service and necessary work performed. It takes the wind out of their sales, stops arguing, flare ups and anybody flaunting that they got extras at the dock amongst other drivers. Most drivers don't like that I handle it that way but they never gripe that poor work was done, totally the opposite. What a driver will receive instead from the shop is {Good job-Thanks for keeping an eye on that} when they deserve it, which can cut B.S. problems with drivers by 80%.
I havent seen this guy back at work but he is part time. If he is gone i wish they would replace him because his job is needed. There has been 4 people that did this job but none of them wanted to work they just wanted a check.
Destroy that phone and make it disappear and all problems associated with it, only thing left is accusations without proof. Not like they are recording to some server anywhere and it doesn't save till after it's stopped. Don't worry if they are weak enough to hide behind a phone they aren't strong enough to stop you. Been there done that...
That is still a altercation at work place spud. Plus if you live in a small town you will more that likely get labeled a hot head, making it tough to find employment elsewhere. Everybody has a boiling point, the most amiable person just has to have the right button pushed on the right day or moment to hit the flash point. People who think they are above it all and never lose their cool are fooling themselves, just the right circumstances and they will boil over like a hot pan on a stove.
There's always an A hole at ever workplace and in every neighborhood, if you don't know who it is, its probably you. I was told this 40 years ago and I still think its true today. As for losing your cool, not sure I'd worry too much about it, after all your only human, if you get in trouble over it, I'd explain your side of it, if it causes you issues, I'd have to think hard if this is a company you really want to work for or if its time to move on. Doubt it helped at all, but there is no such thing as a perfect job that lasts forever, that goes for if your an employee, employer or doing work for someone else, everything has issues of some sort.
I am most fortunate. I really enjoy what I do. I look forward to going to work most everyday - turned 70 on July 3rd - just don't like the alarm clock at 6AM LOL. I used to ride my bike to the freeway construction going on about a mile from our house growing up as a kid in the early 60's . I started year 48 with the local county highway department back on June 27th. I tell folks I've never had a job since I'm getting paid to supervise road and bridge construction 50 years later. I've lost my cool a couple times with out any consequences . So far a sincere apology has "fixed" my lack of verbal control. It's much easier to control the older i get I do advise my fellow employees if there's something that really bothers you so you don't look forward to coming to work, you need to move on. If there's something you can't deal with, and it's something "we" can't change, life is too short to stay here. We are very fortunate that we have a boss that's too nice. He lets some things slide that he shouldn't..... but...........
Nothing has been said and i dont think he has been back to work. The boss was ask before why did he keep him around and he said that he didnt want to make his relatives mad and lose there business. I dont like my job but i dont have a plan for what to do i dont owe anything so i could make it with out a steedy income.