Hi all, can some one help me out with this pic,I need to know what it is,Cheers Lance. http://www.flickr.com/photos/33654046@N03/4216901390/
A Terex/Euclid version of a cat 660 ? Well it's green
That thing is nowhere near as big as a 660, but might be close to a 630 in size...I'd have to dig out my Euclid/Terex book to even get close, it looks to be a 20-25 yard unit from the late 50's-early 60's. Definately a Euclid unit with a screaming driptroit in it....looks to possibly had a few mods like a bigger radiator added just to make it more difficult...Alan627b
Sorry Alan, I've only ever seen & operated an odd 660 over here, the 4 wheel tractor style front was what I was referring to. Wasn't there a John Deere scraper similar but smaller & with elevators
Looking through the book, this unit resembles a Euclid model 47FDT-11SH from 1948. That is a 14 yard scraper equipped with a GM 6-71 or Cummins engine. It also resembles a 1954 model 16DT-23SH from 1954, except that was a twin engine model. The book lists a number of similar models, but only has a few pictures, and without a serial number, it's hard to say for sure. Model designations changed a lot as improvements and changes were made...it's sort of confusing to follow. The comparable Euclid model to the Cat 630 was the SS24 and SS28, to the Cat 632 was the SS33, (1959) and the comparable model to the 650/660 was the Euclid SS40. Later they started changing number designations and to follow them all you'd have to get the book. if you really like green iron, it's worth it. I recommend it. Euclid and Terex Earth-Moving machines by Eric C. Orlemann Hope this helps, Alan
Yup Rus, John Deere had the 5010, and later the 760 and 760B models, I was told they were the best finish scrapers ever devised. About 11 yards capacity. Later an oufit named Fox made some little 7-8 yard scrapers out of Cat loader-backhoe tractors. There are also MRS 2 axle tractors and possibly even Wagner-Hancock creations floating around out there. Even IH and leTourneau made 3 axle tractor scrapers, they'd really be hard to find these days. John Deere 760's, http://www.machinerytrader.com/list/list.aspx?ETID=1&catid=1081&Manu=DEERE&MDLGrp=760 5010... http://www.machinerytrader.com/list/list.aspx?ETID=1&catid=1081&Manu=DEERE&Mdltxt=5010&mdlx=exact
Thanks very much for your replies.I will tiltle it Euclid Scraper.Thanks again.
I was going to say some old Euclid but I wouldn't know the model but I guess by now it is more less identified. Alan I ran a JD 760 for about a year back in the early 80's and it was a pretty nice machine to run, it didn't hold much but we weren't hauling very far. We were building up an area for a trailer park and there was gravel on site which we used for all the fill roads etc. Never had any problems with it other than adjusting the elevator to keep it from jumping the sprockets. An interesting aside was one of the older operators who was there when it was bought said they demo 'd the JD and a CAT ( maybe a 613) at the time they wanted the scraper to dig shale. The JD showed up with the center cutting edge in the lower position and they put teeth on it and he said it would rip shale all day long. The guy from Cat showed up with no teeth and the cutting edges set straight across and tried all day to make it dig and he couldn't get it to load for anything. I guess the JD stayed and the Cat went back. Anyway I thought the JD was a nice little machine to run. Steve
lancef It IS a Euclid SS-12, model B6FDT-B1SH to be exact. British built and usually powered by a Rolls-Royce C6NFL. This one has had a non-standard radiator fitted. There were other British versions of the SS-12 as well, some powered by Leyland, some with AEC and some with the GM 6-71. The British tended to favour diesel engines of their own manufacture
Thanks Wabcoman, I knew we'd get to the bottom of it soon enough! According to the book, it's American cousin SS12 was model 77FDT-40SH (1958) with GM diesel power and used the same pan as the S12 (29SH) with a different yoke. I think the book mainly sticks to the US versions. Previous models were called the Euclid 12 Yard Scraper, capacity 12 to 18 yards struck/heaped. Model numbers of these included 76FTD-18SH with Cummins engine. 77FTD-18SH with GM diesel, both in 1955. Before this, 70FTD-40SH and 71FTD-18SH intoduced in 1951. You need the book to try and follow all the model changes, it seems Euclid changed models about every year in some cases. No wonder they went broke! Reading the book, it's amazing how many times Euclid/Terex/GM would develop something just to the point of becoming a production model and then pull the plug on it after spending years and $ on the project. There is something to be said for standardization! Alan
I thought the the men from C@t had all the answers :tong Didn't know about a "stinger" drop centre cutting edge
Thanks for the info guys.
In the U.K. those little outfits were called Stock Cars, they often had the Bowl unit ether cut off with a roller hooked up to them, or some how blended (Welded) into the Bowl Framework, this would only have been done when they were thought to be past their prime and Dogged to death, the Stock Cars would be for Learner Drivers or punishment Saddles, so there was Young Chaps keen to get a chance to give them the Boot (Drive them) plus good Drivers that when told to Pilot one would stick it for a few days until they sorted a Start with another Muckshifter outfit, waving 2 fingers after they drew what was owing in Wages, Good to see them and thanks for Posting. tctractors
With reference to the John Deere 5010 scraper above, John Deere produced an earlier version based on the 830 twin cyliner farm tractor. It was known as the 840 and had a Hancock scraper attached. One is pictured below and is a part of a collection near Toowoomba here in Australia. John
i have one of the 840's here in il. empty weight is 24090, and it will hold about 8 yards of dirt.