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raydz ยท 2009-05-18 21:14

well i started my mini takeuchi tb035 after a long winter and spring rest.it started right up...i moved it about 80' started to dig a hole and it stalled ...like it ran out of fuel. started right up for 2 seconds and stalled...then again. so i added 2 gals og fuel.i'm thinking perhaps i ran it out of fuel.the first time. i know there was fuel in it but perhaps not enough. anyone have any suggestions on what i can do to prime it .a little shot of starting either worked but i would not want to try that too often.either made it run for 2 seconds.

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  1. #1atgreene2009-05-18 21:18

    Check your fuel filters. One down below the battery under the tool compartment is a water seperator type with a screen. Drain some out of the bottom. The other one is in the engine compartment right in the center of the motor. Spin it off, fill a new one with powerservice and spin it on. Not sure on the 035 about self bleeding, but my 025 was, my 135 has it as well. Turn key on and let the electric fuel pump run for a couple secs then try it. If that doesn't do it, confirm you have fuel coming to both filters. Good luck.

  2. #2stormdodger2009-05-19 02:19

    is your electric fuel pump working?

  3. #3raydz2009-05-19 06:15

    yes.i removed filter and turned key on and heard a sucking sound so i placed finger over hose an felt air...so i guess i have fuel pick-up problem. can it be a bad solenoid?

  4. #4atgreene2009-05-19 07:42

    Have you changed the filters? If the lower filter has water in it no fuel will pass through it. Do you hear the pump clicking/running? Both of mine have a distinct clicking sound when running.

  5. #5stormdodger2009-05-19 14:15

    your fuel line plugged?

  6. #6raydz2009-05-19 15:04

    i believe my fuel line might be plugged.i'm a little hesitant to blow air in line to clear to fuel tank....but i may have to i guess i will get to try my newly installed on-board air system on my duramax

  7. #7AtlasRob2009-05-19 16:09

    Just put your mouth to it and blow, remember to take the fuel cap off first once you hear bubbles in the tank you've cleared it.

  8. #8atgreene2009-05-19 16:26

    Was the lower fuel filter at the bottom of the tank clean?

  9. #9stormdodger2009-05-20 01:06

    sweet:drinkup

  10. #10raydz2009-05-20 06:18

    it was dirty so i cleaned the sediment bowl out and got no fuel to come out with bowl and filter removed.and thats with key turned on and the sound of a pump going.it looks like there is a solenoid next to that lower filter.is that the filter you are talking about?

  11. #11raydz2009-05-20 06:20

    yes i hear that same sound

  12. #12raydz2009-05-20 14:15

    ding ding....we have a winner.a little air in the hose to tank did it.nice to have an electric fuel pump to prime....is that also called a lift pump? thanks everyone :notworthy

  13. #13stormdodger2009-05-21 03:28

    :thumbsup:woohoo

  14. #14maddog2009-05-21 08:32

    Glad to see you got it running, I'd still be a little nervous as to what blocked the line though?

  15. #15AtlasRob2009-05-21 16:40

    Well done raydz :thumbsup great to hear you cleared it. Yes you are correct, us old farts still refer to a lift pump, quite popular still ( well, still a lot found anyway ) they have a small lever underneath to manually pump/prime/lift the fuel, newer machinery now seem to have an electric pump. Dont be suprised. It is quite incredible how much crud and crap gets into the bottom of diesel tanks, no matter how careful you are at refuelling. The outlet pipe often has a small gauze strainer on it ( for obvious reasons) the problem is that over time tiny particles slowly and unnoticed build up on this strainer until finally the fuel says :nono I aint fighting my way through that. A good lung full of air back up the pipe normally cures the problem

  16. #16raydz2009-05-21 19:11

    is this strainer accessable from just outside the tank....or from inside? i heard all these horror stories about ...never let your diesel run out of fuel,it's a bear to prime and start again....well with this pump it was sooooo easy to prime and start.my mini has a glass bowl with a wimpy filter right after tank...then another bigger bowl with a bigger filter mid engine area.smaller bowl and filter was nasty.ran it all day yesterday

  17. #17AtlasRob2009-05-22 14:36

    On some machines it will be possible to unscrew the outlet and remove it to get at the gauze, on others it will nie on impossible to get at meaning that the only way to clean it would be by removing the tank and flushing it. In all honesty unless you have a continuing fuel supply problem I would leave it alone. The problem with running a machine out of fuel is you increase the chance of dragging any crap that is in the tank, into the lines and filters. It is also bad practice and a bad habit to get into as one day it will run out at a critical time in a critical place and cause you grief that can be averted for the few minutes it takes to add fuel. 30mins to go lug fuel a couple hundred yards and bleed the machine or 5mins to add the fuel that you will put in anyway when it runs out :beatsme I was taught that even if the machine is 85% full and the bowser comes around, FILL UP. The bowser might breakdown tomorrow and then you could be shutdown for lack of fuel. I realise it is different for guys who only use a machine infrequently but operators should get into the habit of topping up when they park up. A full tank does not accumalate moisture from condensation, BUT it can be a target for theft so descretion has to be used. There is no point in filling it up tonight only to find somebody helped themselves to it overnight or over the weekend :Banghead

  18. #18Briangwilliams2022-09-01 14:15

    I have a tb035 doing the same thing. When I take the water separator off is fuel going to run out of it continuously or just what is in lines? Where do I take line off to blow back through tank? Thanks