I’m trying to pump water between two ponds about 1000 feet apart. Pumping from upper pond to lower pond about 10’ lower. I have a 4 “ trash pump. I’ve only pumped water a short distance and am not sure what‘s the most economical type of discharge hose to use. i expect to pump more than once and at different times when necessary. I plan to remove the discharge pipe after each time pumping. I see the vinyl discharge hose available that can be rolled up. Can anyone suggest a better way such as pvc? I wasn’t sure about pvc because I wasn’t sure it would stay coupled together. Also, is 4” discharge the size I need for this distance? Any help with a solution would be appreciated. Thank you.
Is there any way to make a ditch so you can pump over the berm of the upper pond and send the water heading to the lower without trying to push it the whole way?
Great suggestion but that will not work for me since it’s a going across a hay field and through a low spot and then up again to lower pond.
Do you know how much water you need to move? It would be nice if you didn't have to take it apart. You could use a rigid pipe like PVC and make it a siphon and not need a pump at all other than to maybe prime it but getting couplings might be prohibitive. Is there any irrigated farming or manure pumping going on around you that you might be able to pick up some used aluminum pipe that lays on the ground?
Can you make it permanent and bury the PVC?
PVC joints won't separate if you use these. It isn't just the distance, it is all about the volume and how fast and you wanna move it.
Welcome to the Forums! Glad to have you. I would just use the standard vinyl hose. We have a couple 2" trash pumps and probably 500' of vinyl hose with quick connect ends. Easy to roll out, roll up and store.
We primarily use “lay flat” hose. The best is the black as shown…it is pricey; about 350$/per 50’ length (4”) That is Canadian dollars. For our use I prefer camlocks. You can also buy bulk lengths & add camlocks. But it does get unwieldy to roll more than about 100’ at once. This hose is incredibly tough! It will easily hold up to large head lifts (we are currently @ pumping 150’ head). As you aren’t dealing with large lifts even the blue layflat will work. It is just that it will start springing pinholes if dragged around at all (or even if not!)
Brands of the above layflat we use: Greenline, ‘Black Dragon’….
Regarding discharge: ordinarily, yes you should use 4” line (with a 4”pump). We attempted a 105’ head lift with this 4” Godwin pump using 3” discharge hose. The result was very poor. Switching to 4” made a substantial difference in gpm. Also pump was not working as hard. Frictional losses (due to excessive water velocity) in smaller hose are large.
Layflat comes in different pressure ratings though which substantially affects the price.
If it’s a one off or very occasional use, just go to HF and get some black 4” lay flat.
Red is a mid grade hose.
Angus Offshore 850 lay flat is the cats meow.
You would think the states largest petroleum distributor would be using the fuel rated Angus green w/static wire, but ain’t nobody got time for that.
I'd suggest 6" non perf tile. If you want cheaper than possible to get by with a couple of 4" non perf plowed in if you can't plow in the 6 with a tile plow.
Use a 4" heavy-duty lay-flat vinyl discharge hose with cam-lock fittings for your 1000 ft run. Why: Lightweight, easy to roll up, best for temporary setups. Avoid PVC: Too rigid and may pop apart unless glued. Stick with 4": Downsizing increases friction loss and slows flow. Use cam-lock quick connects and double clamps for secure, easy setup