Can somebody help ID this loader?? All I know is that it has a Cummins eng and is a former military unit. It is a rear wheel steer.
My guess, Hough Payloader.
The machine next to it is a parts machine and is missing the transmission and has a Mack engine. I never knew Mack got into the HE business, so the engine may be a transplant:beatsme
ole payloader, hough 50 maybe?? Pj
I was going to say Hough but Fiat Allis had some that looked similar.I suspect that my timeline might be off a little though as the straight frame machines might be before there was a Fiat Allis company.I think that the Scania/Mack engines made it into various different machines over the years.Ron G
It's a Hough for my guess...maybe a H60.
What loader is this? Looks like a Michigan from the 1960's.
Here is a pic of a Hough 90. It is the only one i could find that matched the light housings on the rear. and guess what? its a military loader as well. The lower center piece is removeable and missing from your pic. Your pic has a split rear window which could mean either the loader in your pic is older or larger. Here is the link to the pic. http://www.equipmenttraderonline.com/find/listing/-HOUGH-H90-96420081
Its a Hough PayLoader, looks to be about H60 size
Yeah i can confirm that its a Hough. There are two other older wheel loader brands that look like it- some of the 1970's lorain wheel loaders looked somewhat similar and also a few Trojan wheel loaders looked similar as well. But everything on this loader makes it look like a Hough... one dead giveaway is the ladder going to the cab, all of the Hough wheel loaders from this era have the exact same frame.
Ohh and usually another good way to tell is by looking at the front of the machine. These old Hough loaders have an extremely heavy duty piece of steel for the Z-bar linkage and unlike most today, the Hough's have the entire linkage pivoting off of a pin in the center that is connected to the two arms. The ones today have the actual Z-bar link attached in front of a support beam that goes between the two arms. Laketreefarm, all of the 60's Michigan loaders (which are of similar era to this Hough) had suicide arms that were pinned to the frame just behind where the operator would sit. The loader design was still being more refined then and the loaders were basically tractors with the cab rotated 180 degrees and the loader arms located in the back of the "tractor design." It also made more sense to put the arms further back because the operator had better visibility and the arms could then be positioned more towards the middle of the machine for better weight distribution (though they still tipped forward often). Besides, the companies could do this because loaders were still straight frame and you didn't need to worry about the front section moving independently from the rear. I hope you don't take the comment negatively, it is just meant to educate, and well... i like to talk about the history of wheel loaders a lot =D
Yeah, sorry for turning this into three posts but just to explain "suicide arms:" The term suicide arms comes from the fact that the operator was sitting in between these two huge pieces of moving steel- the loader arms- and if he looked or put his arms anywhere outside of the cab they would be, for lack of a better term sheared off. I haven't heard of this ever happening (though there is a first time for everything) but the danger is obviously there.
I do have some other pix but they don't show the whole machine. Yes, it does have a large "wishbone" steel section in front for bucket control.
Yeah i would still agree with most everybody else that it appears to be a Hough, somewhere in the H65 range.
I have a Hough 65C and it's not a 65C. I'm still trying to determine what year ours was built but seems 1974 to 1976. The upper part of cast radiator grille is exactly like ours but the lower section which has those lights embedded in it isn't the same. I have a parts book and workshop manual for the 65C and none of the models mentioned, had that lower section like that. The aircleaner of this one shown is on the LH and all of it exposed. On our 65C (with DT414 donkey), it is under the bonnet and it's cover is on the outside on the Rh side but the parts book show different models had different engines and so the air cleaner position will because of the size or shape of the motor. The tyres look smaller in diameter than the 65C. What size are they? The step isnt the same and neither is the Rr screen. I forward to seeing what it is. Cheers
It's a Hough H60 built for military use. Why they used the boat anchor Cummins I never knew. Probably some congressman from Columbus sprinkled a little sugar of the Cummins folks. They were not a particularly useful loader, had too many engine problems.
The running one with the Cummins C-180, has 17.5-25 tires. The parts loader with the Mack engine has 16.00-24 tires.
My dad has a Hough 60D that looks identical to that one and also has the Cummins engine. He has had that one for over 30 years, best damn loader he has, motor is amazing, that Cummins just keeps running year after year with little to no maintenance. He also has a later articulating Hough 60B with the IH D-301 engine that is grossly under-powered and likes to eat head gaskets, head is cracked. The old H60D will lift the back of the newer H60B up at idle but the H60B can't lift the H60D up even at full-throttle. The old H60D is a beast compared to the newer H60B. I carried a rock across the gravel pit that barely fit in the bucket, had to push it in while up against the gravel bank and the back wheels kept bouncing off the ground to move it to the rock pile. Good memories.