Heres a few pics from my current project.
And a few from the last job.
sweet pics
Whats up with that step on the track frame of that 5110?? Looks like its readdy to get torn off anytime. Maybe time for some younger blood to run that thing....
Great pics, keep them coming! What was the scope of those projects? Never realized how much bigger the 5110's are/were than the 385. Thanks for sharing
Do I see an old Payhauler in the one pic? Nice shots
Thanks guys, If you notice, in the first pics, the 5110 has new steps. A big rock rolled onto it on the job the second pics were from. The first pics are of a landfill we are digging in Oregon now, the second ones are from an airport in Colorado early this fall. Payhaulers up the rear! We have 22 of those things, as well as 4 of the Komatsus. I keep some more coming on the way! Jason
who do you work for. do you guys travel from job to job thats cool
Usually the younger are the ones that tears of sidesteps and scratches counterweights the more experienced operators know to plan their work so that they don't need to do unnecessary repairs.
Heres some more of our 5110 and 385's over the years.
Moving to the next job!
Sukut's 5110 sitting idle
Never seen a ladder like that before on a 5110. Interesting. Last Friday I moved ours down from the cut to the mechanics yard so they can do some welding on the bucket over Christmas break. I noticed a warning light icon that has a ladder up/down drawing on it. Now I know whats thats for!Heres a pic I took walking it by my pickup. Good way to clean off the snow!!Jason
JTL, Do you have a few pics of the operators station? I have been wondering for a while about what happened to the 5110Bs. They seem to have dissapeared:beatsme Really nice pics!
Sorry I dont have any pics of the operators station. That was only like the fifth time I'd ever been in the cab of that thing. I've moved it a few times at shift change, and only operated it loading trucks for an hour. Cat quit building the entire 5000 series excavators in 03 or 04. Aparently they were having a tough time with development and having reliability issues. Also seems they where having hard time compeating with the Japanese and other foriegn built machines of that size. The reliability factor seems strange to me. We've got almost 15,000 hours on ours with little to no down time. We rebuilt the engine at a little over 10,000 hours, and repacled the finals at 12,000. We rebuilt one of the hyd pumps at 14,000, and right now are replacing the "H" link on the bucket. Me and my super sat down the other day and figuered up the operating vs. maintance cost of the machine. We've moved a butt load of muck for a little amount of money! Mabey we just got lucky!!! Jason
I've seen quite a few pics of 5000's with the machine in two pieces, if i remember correctly that was the main problem. The swing bearing would fail and the rest of the excavator would fall off the undercarriage. I don't remember if that was the main issue or not, but i've heard and seen about several.
There were several reasons why the 5000’s were discontinued. The primary reason, behind all the machines was the undercarriage. While there are several dramatic photos floating around of carbody’s shearing off at the turntable, that was the more extreme end of the spectrum, not necessarily the norm. Overall the greatest downside to these machines was their requirement for aggressive preventive maintenance programs to keep them running at high availability. Too many mines or heavy civil contractors that owned these machines simply didn’t have the maintenance department in place, or didn’t properly fund/train their maintenance department to take care of these machines. The 5000’s are all intricate machines with a lot of systems that require a good maintenance department and an operator who is willing to spend 20 minutes each morning going through the excavator from top to bottom to check it out before putting the bucket in the dirt. They simply weren’t as fool-proof as the Hitachi and Komatsu’s. Both Bucyrus and P&H provided enough necessary training, support and field follow up with their shovels that it didn’t take long for CAT to really fall on their face with the entire 5000 series and lose the market to their competitors. I have no experience with the 5080 or 5090 so can’t comment on them. But speaking of the 5110, 5130 and 5230; the 5110 was the best of the bunch. The only real weak point was the grossly under-engineered undercarriage on the machine that will nickel and dime a contractor to death on maintenance. Some types of material accelerate the problem more than others. There were also some problems with the ME configurations having incompatible bucket pins/linkage setups to the long sticks which would cause wear and in some cases seizing/breakage of the bucket pins if they weren’t matched correctly. If CAT could design a good undercarriage, I think it would be a wise choice to introduce a 3110. The 5110 would out-dig Hitachi 1100/1200 in all situations. And the Komatsu PC1250 will only out produce a 5110 in some pipe laying situations. The 5130 had a worse undercarriage than its little brother the 5110, but it got into a number of other issues. Because it was offered with options for either a shovel package or backhoe configuration, there were problems with CAT putting shovel sensors and hydraulic lines in the boom and at the pump on machines that were then configured with backhoe booms/sticks (or vice versa). The mishap lead to a lot of problems with controls not working probably, phantom movements in the stick/bucket, etc. These mishaps resulted in a lot of downtime which no contractor running a big fleet of 70-100 ton haul trucks is going to want to deal with from their primary loading machine. From a performance standpoint, the machine would run the same pace as other hydraulic excavators in its class and offered excellent break-out force. It was a real performer in hard rock, until the undercarriage wore out and the bottom half of the machine started falling apart. The 5230 was a good excavator, but with shovel configurations couldn’t keep pace with the Hitachi 2500 or Bucyrus 182/295 shovels. As an excavator, where I have experience with the machine, I think it’s a good excavator if you have an astute maintenance department keeping up on it. Like the smaller 5000’s, it simply wasn’t as well built as its competitors and had a terrible undercarriage beneath it, all of which added up to lots of downtime. Mines and heavy civil contractors simply couldn’t afford the downtime, and most everyone switched over to Komatus/Hitachi/Bucyrus replacements. Interestingly enough, I’ve spent a lot of time working in a mine that has five 5230’s. All machines were purchased new with backhoe stick configurations. They’re all over 100,000 original frame-hours, and have been through several rebuilds; all machines run 24/7 production and have minimal downtime. The mechanics taking care of the machines and the operators running them are all on the same page as to the machines’ maintenance needs and it shows in the performance of all five machines. Last time I was up there, I was kidding with some of the mechanics about what they were going to replace their 5230’s with since they aren’t slated to through another rebuild. They’re undecided as to whether or not to stay with hydraulic shovels or go to electrics since CAT doesn't offer a replacement. Check out the videos at these links. They give a pretty good feel for the complexities of the machines and why they require an astute operator and a skilled maintenance department to keep them running. http://safety.cat.com/cda/components/fullArticle?m=133361&x=7&id=623952 http://safety.cat.com/cda/components/fullArticle?m=133361&x=7&id=619992