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850k 2009 no start no crank

BigDiesel6.4 · 2024-10-12 17:07

Have a 2009 case 850k series 3 dozer. First it would not shut off with the key. Now it is cranking like 3 times than just clicks from starter... getting 7volts. To trigger wire.... NOW ALSO GETTING FUEL BUT NO SMOKE AT ALL STARTS ON ETHER DIES RIGHT OUT. NEW key switch. Starter.. BATTERIES. FIXED BROKEN WIRES AND BLOWN FUSES

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  1. #1BigDiesel6.42024-10-12 18:21

    12 volts in starter relay 7.4 out to trigger on starter.. getting fuel bled.. bled... bled... not even a puff. Ether it fires and cuts.

  2. #2Simon C2024-10-14 23:25

    Is the fuel solenoid getting proper power while cranking, so unit can start. Is the cranking speed fast enough for compression ignition to happen. If you are only getting 7 volts at starter, you have bad batteries or bad wiring or grounds. Need to test positive and negative cables for voltage loss. If you don't know how we can explain. Need to get to root of problem. Simon C

  3. #3BigDiesel6.42024-10-23 15:21

    No voltage drop just loose wires at relay. Found codes 21490. 4323f. Cleaned fuel shutoff solenoid plunger n̈ow starts and just wont shut off with key

  4. #4Simon C2024-10-23 15:32

    Don't have schematics on your unit. They are worth having as you will have problems of other kinds also, just can't say when. Wondering if you have a burn't diode that is allowing a backfeed to keep the solenoid energized. Guessing the solenoid is powered to run , I could be wrong. Those relays can have 1 loose pin and you cant tell when pushing together. I have tightened the receivers on many a relay base. Keep us posted as to what you find. Simon C

  5. #5BigDiesel6.42024-10-23 15:43

    Did the lift pump and loose dirty wires in the holder like always. But still not shutting off. Now I'm gonna put a fuel shutoff solenoid all has power where it should solenoids burning hot so I don't like that

  6. #6Simon C2024-10-23 19:22

    If solenoid is very hot it is probably grounding out internally. Then it acts like a heat sink. Simon C

  7. #7BigDiesel6.42024-10-24 08:06

    That's what i was thinking at this point fuel shutoff is bad. So hot when energized. thanks guys not sure why there is no info on this machine dealer says it's not what the plate says it's a 1850k series3 xlt. But plate says not xlt... got the lift pump fuel now just cleared out fuel system. Diesel gunk remover. Overnight. THANKS GUYS IM NEW TO THIS FORUM BUT YOU GUYS ROCK... FAST ANSWERS AND NO SHOWOFFS LOL. AGAIN THANKS WE HAVE BEEN CHASING THESE GREMLINS FOR 3 YEARS. Sometimes u overthink I mentioned it was burning hot left the wire off pulled the side solenoid

  8. #8Tinkerer2024-10-24 08:57

    Welcome to HEF ,BD ! I see you have two threads going. In your post above (#8) you mention it is an 1850K series III. But your thread title says 850K.

  9. #9BigDiesel6.42024-10-25 12:26

    Yes spins fast all have power

  10. #10BigDiesel6.42024-10-25 12:28

    Was going by the owner / dealer by me now know wat it is. It has decals that are not right.

  11. #11BigDiesel6.42024-10-25 12:35

    Also says it's xlt but it isn't according to the dealer it's 12v not 24 and I report he has sent me so far has been wrong

  12. #12BigDiesel6.42024-10-25 12:39
  13. #13BigDiesel6.42024-10-25 12:41
  14. #14BigDiesel6.42024-10-25 12:43

    I have done the same that was the starter problem

  15. #15Coy Lancaster2024-10-25 12:46

    Those IP's are bad for destroying themselves. If there is metal on the shutoff solenoid plunger it's toast, along with injectors.

  16. #16BigDiesel6.42024-10-25 12:52

    She is running full steam...? Lol this things nuts

  17. #17BigDiesel6.42024-10-25 12:55

    When changing the lift pump a few flakes of something came out of the fuel line and I drained a little bit more and then put it back on....cleaned out all the srew out solenoids made sure they worked and it ran after bleeding and little ether

  18. #18BigDiesel6.42024-10-25 15:30

    Sn mbc1083

  19. #19BigDiesel6.42024-10-25 15:31

    Starter clicking intermittent problem and fuel problem

  20. #20Simon C2024-10-25 20:23

    Is it running okay now , or is it still causing grief. Let us know. Simon C