so after replacing the s185 and having the "huge" bobcat 570 that seems to be working out ok, i got bored the other day and looked into "similar sized" machines. our 570 has the wheel spacers (which i was not aware was necessary to install tracks) and is 74 inches wide, ic the 650 is 72 inches wide. my most interesting find was that a 650 is only 4 inches longer than a 570! SURELY i should be able to make such a machine work out on the operation!! i believe the old s250 was about 10" or 12" longer, a significant amount... so my new question is, would i be willing to give up the sweetness of the small frame jcb and move to a 650 to gain the extra 1500 lbs tipping load. (the large frame jcb is significantly larger than a 650) so this doesn't seem like a terrible strategy but i do not like the small and loud cab of the bobcat, and less than convenient entry and exit. so then i got looking into "competitive" machines to the 650 and there doesn't seem to be any. I'm aware that bobcats 873 size frame size was absent for 5 years or so and i have to admit that bobcat was strategic in forcing people to buy 650s cuz they were the only m series for a few years. so what i realized is there is nobody who has a competitive machine (as far as dimensions) [an enigma similar to the case 440 from back in the day] to the 650. Except ironically kubota!! ic the cat machine is narrower than the 650 but quite a bit longer so thats probably out. i never looked at deere case new holland or terex cuz aint nobody wants one of those. so my question is, does anyone have a competitive machine to the kubota 75 and the bobcat 650 as far as dimensions go. i guess i will answer my own question and say no. at the same time the local bobcat dealer ic has 2 650s on the lot and like 25 570 size machines so what does that tell you. it is also frustrating that there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of consistency between machine specs between different manufacturers. ic the "turning radius" for the kubota size 650 is like 20 inches longer, which i do not really believe. so once again i am in a bind i feel i could use the extra lifting capacity to better handle my monster buckets, but at the same time i feel the larger machine might ironically ruin my big buckets with the excessive breakout forces.
what is this the kubota ssv 65 (1900b machine) and ssv75 (2700lb machine) is the same frame machine?!