Happened to come across this on the internet. Looks to be in decent shape and have never seen one with a ripper. Bet it goes pretty cheap. Could be a brother to the one Nicky posted. https://www.rbauction.com/pdp/clark-michigan-wheel-dozer/15440092?feedage=20260720&feedacct=RBAUSA&utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=RBA-NA-CAN-CW-Construction-CRITEO-RET-BUY-FEED-Regional%20Push&utm_id=615086&cto_pld=WaQVgEysAAC0Oc1CN62IMQ
Good find Welder Dave. Looks very nice and all there. Think it’s a fair bit older than mine.
There is a member on here that has one of those. However his has no cab. I can not remember his name.
Just curious Just curious Dose the blade tilt? It appears to have cylinders tucked up in the steps attached to the push arms
Appears to tilt forward -
Can't tell if that cylinder matches one on the other side to just lift the blade or if it can be used to tilt the blade.
Well I missed this - That does look a side to side tilt cylinder.
As far as I know the cylinder on the side is the blade tilt. The cylinders on the back of the blade are what you use to control the grade you're cutting. Since it's on rubber tires that squish when you lift the blade, there are pads under the back of the blade that it rides on and tilting it back and forth controls the cut. At least that's how it was explained to me by someone who ran one a little bit, which is more than me.
A wheel dozer with a 4 way blade. I missed the lift cylinder behind the tire. Are long pushes the best applications for wheel dozers?
Thinking they were mainly used for cleaning the floor were faceshovels worked and pushing over the tip head.
I don't know if they were big sellers for a specific industry or not but would think being rubber tired they'd save money over having undercarriage. Would only be used in cleaner material with no rocks or stumps etc. and never in poor underfoot conditions.
They were used in our country for rolling in coal stockpiles where the sealers couldn’t get to
I’ll get some pics for you lads of the blade set up
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This is a Mich 280C with coal blade and Cummins big cam. The blade itself is a coal handling blade about the size of a Cat D8K 8U blade
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As JaredV explains, the pads under the blade assembly are clearly seen in my pictures. This machine was rebuilt before being scrapped by the national energy companies (as is the norm). It’s technically fit to work many more years in a poor country working the coal stockpiles in power stations. Spares would be probably ok to find,but for the cost of it,if its owner could get 3 months out of it,it would have easily have paid for itself. The problem is with any old equipment that isn’t Caterpillar,is that it simply isn’t Caterpillar. I urge anyone to consider that when buying old equipment.
Dave, when you first posted about your new land acquisition and asked about cleaning it up, I recommend a larger reasonable priced loader. That thing looks like sex on a stick, if it runs and works, for what you want to do with it.
I'm not expert in dozers, and know nothing about wheeled dozers except what y'all post here, but the way that blade frame is attached to the main frame doesn't look like it will last long for heavy pushing. Too many long reach right angle joints. On the flip side, maybe I need those skid pads on my little ranch dozer so I stop building roller coaster roads...
I'd bet tracks are cheaper to deal with than huge tires.
I would love to have an experiment where one of these large, heavy wheel dozers was working a fill lift with 30-40 ton artics. Interested to see how it would compact and achieve compaction compared to a dozer and vibratory roller. Of course an 815 would beat it but those are $500K plus for one with less than 8K hours on it. Would be interesting to see how it would perform in that situation. The heavy weight and tires of the wheel dozer along with the weight and tire manipulation of the haul trucks. If one ran the lift correctly keeping the trucks dumping on an arc across the edge of the fill lift, it would be interesting to see the compaction numbers of that setup.
I remember reading a big wheel dozer with good traction would out push a D10. Western Contracting built the Western 2000 wheeled push tractor that was the largest of all dozers wheel or tracked. If I recall it weighed 170 tons and was used to push load large scrapers in about 50 seconds or less!
It looks to built extra heavy but is very crude from an engineering standpoint.
That solid brace looks to prevent the blade from tilting even though there is a cylinder on the other side. Maybe the blade can pivot and it works like a standard dozer blade with a single tilt cylinder.
Here you see them on coal piles and the one company liles them on the ash dump. The fans behind you you can see
CM1995….they may well work well in that application,but you hilight the point about running the lift correctly……… If only.
It amazes me how many people do not understand how to run a proper fill lift. If you have the trucks be on-road or off-road running in an arc across the edge of the lift not only does the truck not have to go into reverse, it aides in compaction and less work for the dozer. All the time I see lifts set up where the truck pulls up, goes in reverse to dump close to the edge then the dozer fans it out. Drives me nuts! Almost as bad as a hoe on a large open bank loading trucks and they have it set up where the truck has to back in when they could easily have the truck pull up beside with no reversing. A proper set up haul route never has the truck going in reverse. Of course one can't always set it up this way but if it can be set up this way - then it should. Production = Money
If you have room make a loop for the trucks to go around to get loaded and they can head straight back after getting loaded. No reverse needed
CM, I think it's a mining industry thing that has crept into civil construction. Even faceshovels working into the face instead of along it and the trucks doing a loop is another example.
If only he can afford to feed that beast I bet she's pretty thirsty
Thirsty and loud!
On the subject of lifts on the fill area,it would be interesting to run an experiment on a job by electronically blanking off reverse in all the trucks and seeing how things progressed from there.
Side tippers are becoming more common here for all those reasons. Can't load the front trailer on a B double if they back in so circles it is.
We don't have many side dumps here but it would be interesting to see them in a fill operation. No experience with side dumps - Can it dump on the go? Speaking of fill/dirt material nothing chunky.
Yes.
Problem with this is you would need actual truck drivers and not retards that go to the right place every time, not the morons that follow the first idiot like lemmings over a cliff. There is nothing more nerve-wracking on a site than a bunch of drivers that have no clue except the steering wheel turns and payday is on Friday. Sometimes even a dedicated site man to direct each truck can't keep things going smoothly.
Yes they dump on the go, even rip rap, so basically they'll handel any size material but the dump site has to be set-up properly. They dump the back trailer first and as the is about to finish the next trailer starts to dump. You get a large windrow of material.
Thank you for the info. We just don't have them around here. Some end dumps and live bottom trailers for asphalt and wood chips but not side dumps. Most everything hauled to and from a job site is done with tri-axle dumps. Now I'd like to see a set of these side dumps in operation doing some mass grade cut and fill.
Know a little about the fill end but most of the time I was loading them with a EX600 on a mass cut running around the clock. That job was on the Sun Metals refinery Townsville Nth Qld if you want to look at the job.