Just paid for them today and might be playing with them in two months. How do you like them??
2 Al-Jon landfill compactors congrats! Are you putting them to work in a landfill or for resale? Al-Jon has a pretty good reputation in the refuse business, what models are they?
Those are Impact 81K's. Great machines! We are the service center for Aljon in California and have found them to be better in landfill applications because of the hydrostatic drive. Much simpler and no wire wrap on the drive line. Congrats Cat D8N !
Thanks,:drinkup 2001 and we will be doing a lot of earthworks with them. We are building a sea shrimp farm and developing more that 15mill sq. feet at the moment
Thanks :drinkup I am almost sure they are 91K.. we will be using them as sand and clay compactors for levies and pond base. What kind of slope do you think they can handle? 3 to 1 ? , 2 to 1? more or less?
Having never ran one if you can get enough traction I would think they would run on a 2:1. They look to have a really low center of gravity and the guys at our landfill run on at least a 3:1 I would guess at times.
They're 91K's and were originally delivered in the UK. The tips on the wheels are MacPactor Diamonds. Just about the best landfill compactor tip money can buy. Congratulations...
ops Aljons aren't my department. It looked to me like the 81K we had in our yard a couple years ago.
Thanks for the tip.. that was helpful..:drinkup You got it in one Mate... thank you :drinkup They are in very good condition... What do you think a fair price for them would be? by the way how did you know that they were in UK?? Well... they are the same except for the 10K pounds difference in weight and a bit larger body..:drinkup
You see the jack leg cylinders sticking out of the rear corners? This identifies it as a 91K. As far as price goes I'm afraid I wouldn't have a clue. Buying and selling machines really isn't my thing. Sorry...
Excuse my ignorance... but what is the "jack leg cylinders"? You answered how you new that they were 91K's but not how you knew they were in UK?
I can't help but wonder how well they will do in a dirt only environment...you might have to weld on a few more feet to get density. I've never seen AlJon's before, but it looks to be in the Cat 826 or 836 class. might have a look on Machinerytrader.com, Ironplanet or Rock And Dirt and see what prices they bring. Here ya' are.. http://www.machinerytrader.com/list/list.aspx?ETID=1&catid=1010&Manu=AL-JON http://www.machinerytrader.com/drilldown/manufacturers.aspx?ETID=1&catid=1010 Aljon website..you can even order a free video game. http://www.aljon.com/ Alan
Compare amerindependent's photos with yours. See the rear corners? These are the tops of inbuilt jacks for lifting the rear of the machine off the ground. Now see the walkway around the front of the cab on your photos? This means it was a UK machine.
Thanks Boy it sure took me a little while to figure the Jacks out... but its OK now... Now the walk around ... why do you say it means a UK machine? Is there an Al-Jon factory there? Sorry for all the Q's.
Bloody hell, are you CID? All Al-Jons are made in the USofA. The walkways are a requirement of some UK customers.
CID?? .. Criminal Investigation Department..? Nop. Clinical Infectious Diseases...? Nop Center for International Development...? may be.. I just ralized your an OZ... well guess what... I'm a SOZ .. Well.... G'ray M'May... Hows my China Plate? I simply Love Australia .... and hope to go there again soon. Thanks Mate.
Right first time... CID = Criminal Investigation Department = plain-clothes police = people who as a lot of questions
They look pretty good D8N i think you might have to put more pads on them also to get better compaction
Well your the second one to suggest that ... and we sure do need compaction, it is essential for our pond base and levees so now I gotta start looking for some pads.... Thanks
You can use landfill compactors for earthworks compaction, but, they are not designed to compact earth. the teeth are designed to crush and cut waste not compact soil. If you look at the teeth on a CAT 815 soil compactor they have flat tops so as to knead the soil (like pastry), in the Uk we call them sheeps foot teeth. Many years ago in the UK we tried to use a landfill spec machine to compact soil for a new road project, the engineers involved would not agree to its use as the width of the wheels combined with the profile of the teeth would not meet the 'Blue Book' spec for earthworks compaction. I have no idea as to the regulations for earthworks in Saudi Arabia, or the local material. If you cannot get high enough compaction I would suggest that you talk to either Al-jon or Caron about a set(s) of soil compaction wheels. You have bought the best compactors on the market. Regards
Thanks Hanomag... that was very informative and useful.. I have noticed that several of the comments had suggested to increase the pads by welding them on to increase density and compaction. This is as I see it a remedy to use the on hand Al-Jon's and make the best out of them. As to the codes here in Saudi Arabia... there are non... with regard to the project that we are developing "shrimp farm" we come up with our own based on trial and error. Would you suggest that we weld sheep feet pads on the wheels in between the regular ones? sounds a bit waki but might work... :bash or there might be ready made full sheep foot pads to be bolted around the wheels like the ones they have for single drum compactors??
Check out the Caron website - http://www.caroncompactor.com/b_products.html#soil They have some products for soil compaction and a few products to adapt landfill feet to soil compaction feet. Another thing to consider is using the trash blade for dirt work. These blades are designed to push bulky but lightweight trash which has different weights and density than dirt. I would be careful not to side load the blade since these compactors lack pusher arms that the soil compactors (such as an 815F) have. Not saying they can't be used for pushing dirt, they are used all the time in landfills to grade daily cover. If you are using trucks to move the material I would put a dozer with these compactors to knock the piles down. If you are using pans/scrapers then your not going to be pushing much with them anyway.
I've pushed clay/soil fill with a landfill spec machine in the UK and it was easy to meet compaction spec as long as the lifts were kept around a foot or less. They compact better pushing their own loads out rather than just rolling what a dozer has pushed. When the rollers are pushing they pummel the ground more than just rolling.
Thanks for the website, very interesting. I do take your point there.. but I think we will be doing more grading and compaction instead of spreading piles. No scrapers on our site. Well nothing beets first hand experience....:drinkup My concern here is the clay build up around the wheels since they dont have any cleaners?? Did you have any problem there?
Well nothing beets first hand experience....:My concern here is the clay build up around the wheels since they dont have any cleaners?? Did you have any problem there?[/QUOTE] Ours had cleaners. If it hadn't the build-up would have killed it on the wetter clay. It's going to be a bit suck-it-and-see for you, but on dryer clay it was no problem, but if you can fit cleaners you're going to extend the range of what you can put down.
[/QUOTE] Ours had cleaners. If it hadn't the build-up would have killed it on the wetter clay. It's going to be a bit suck-it-and-see for you, but on dryer clay it was no problem, but if you can fit cleaners you're going to extend the range of what you can put down.[/QUOTE] Well what we will try to do is water the clay end of the day and compact in the morning and afternoons, in other words wait tell it gets a little dry first. The other thing is that our thing is that our pads are not that many on the wheels, which means that clay doesent stick to it as easy as if it were usual padfoot compactors
I've never found watering clay to work too good, as the water needs to be mixed in throughout. That's another reason it's best to spread with the compactor, as you immediately trap any moisture already in the clay. Keep spreading and compacting continually as the material arrives. By the way, what are you doing in Saudi?
Well at the moment we have no other option than to spread out the clay and wait for the compactors to arrive and do the job. But I really agree that the best way is to spread and compact as it arrives, just cant beat one time handling I am a Saudi National, and I am building a shrimp farm here with an OZ mate of mine. , but I did go to school in the US when I was a kid back in the early 70's... and loved it :usa
Nice looking machines.