I have been looking for a used backhoe and found a Case 580B that appears in decent shape. I know the guy that owned it before the current owner and he thinks it is a 73 model year. It started up with no problem and seemed to run well with no abnormal amounts/color of smoke. I'm not very familiar with the 580B as most of my experience is on a 580C. The B appears slightly smaller than the C. What help advice can you give me. They are asking $4500 and i probably won't go over $4k. Thanks Bill
I went and looked at it again and the hour meter says 1150 hours but i'm sure it's 11,500. How many hours does the engine/transmission, etc usually go before needing a full rebuild? Also found some of the serial numbers, 5209441 (on the loader frame), 5204330 (on the hoe frame). The weird thing was the hoe had a "Case CK" decal on it but on the tag with the serial number it said 580 B, is that normal? On the front loader found a place where it must have cracked and was welded and added some reinforcing plates top and bottom. Still undecided on whether to get it or not.
580B CK - serial numbers I paid double that for a 73 power-shuttle 580B extendahoe with a recent in-frame 188 diesel rebuild. Put a bunch more in it for spindles & bushings, new front tires, hoses and sundry welding. Here's a little more info ... 580CK Tractor 1966-1971 580B Series “B” Tractor 1971 – 1976 Begin S/N End S/N Year Begin S/N End S/N Year 8279001 – 8307000 1966 8674001 – 8691900 1971 8307001 – 8332500 1967 8691901 – 8712000 1972 8332501 – 8356500 1968 8712001 – 8736600 1973 8356507 – 8650000 1969 8736601 – 8770000 1974 8650001 – 8674000 1970 8770001 – 8797500 1975 8674001 – 8697900 1971 8797501 – 8809950 1976 Attachments such as loaders and backhoes and components such as engines and transmissions have individual serial numbers. The following information is generally true for machines through the D series tractors. Loader serial numbers begin with 4 Backhoe serial numbers begin with 5. Engine serial numbers start with 2 Transmission/ Transaxle serial numbers start with 10.
Thanks for the help. I still have not had a chance to operate it as the first time i looked at it i was on my lunch break and pressed for time and the second time i looked no one was home. Hopefully this week i can spend some time in the seat getting a feel for it and how loose it is. Most of the hoses on the hoe are fairly new but the hoses on the loader definately have some age on them and will need replaced at some point. Luckily they are much shorter than the hoses on the hoe. Did all the B's come with the 188 diesel, is it a reliable engine? Would the scab plate on the loader arm worry you or is that just the nature of the beast with a machine this old? Any other suggestions/comments? Thanks
Think of hoses & cylinder seals as consumable supplies. My hoe is pretty sloppy and will need to be rebushed & repinned at some point... but it is still strong enough to dig out huge rocks on my property. I think the 580B came with both a diesel & gas engine... you want the diesel. If you have 11,000 hours on it... it may be past it's useful life. The rebuild kits aren't expensive, but the labour can kill you. It'll cost you more than four thousand dollars for a dealer rebuild. My machine has plenty of welding on it... particularly the loader. Not surprising for it's age. Remember, for 4k you're not gonna get a prom queen. I'd suggest putting the machine up on the stabilisers and getting a bucket into the ground. See how it pulls and look for leaking fluid. Cylinders can be repacked, but if you have oil coming out the torque tube or differential it's a bigger issue. See how it drives uphill... that's a biggie. That's just a relative newbie's opinion. I'm sure some of the more experienced guys here could help out more. Have you got any pictures?
I'm just guessing on the 11500 hours, the hour meter says 1150 but it is only 4 digit so who knows. This machine is a diesel and seemed to start just fine but i haven't worked it at all yet. What is the significance of driving uphill (not doubting just don't know)? No pictures yet, had my camera last time but the battery was dead. Will get some soon.
here's a thread that explains all that. pay particular attention to the exchange between phil & ronspowertrain starting on page 2.
Thanks, i understand now. I will make sure to get it up to temp and then drive it up hill.
I am new to this or any site. i appologise if i jump in or affend anyone but i have been reading about cleaning the shuddle pump pickup tube screen and my question after looking at the pictures is why can't the adapter plate be unbolted and raised enough to unbolt the tube. then remove the plate and pump from the tractor. and then remove the tube seperatly from the tourque tube. that would eliminate the clearance problem from the gas tank. I have a 580b with the shuddle problem and have cosidered this. I have no clue so if i am craze for suggesting this i hope someone could set me straight before i aopen a can of worms.
i paid 8500 cdn for the machine with an in-frame ( not the crank ) rebuild. it was what the seller told me about the engine ( his next door son-in-law who rebuilt it is a diesel mech ) that sold me. i'm guessing i overpaid because i got majorly burned on steering related stuff. it was all loosey-goosey and after delivery i discovered one spindle was actually welded in. had to have the whole front end redone, including rubber, and that was not cheap. it was me, i would've felt i had to disclose that kind of thing, but i liked the guy & took him at his word. it burns a little... but you can't control how other folks choose to live their lives, right? that " little oversight " did make me question what this guy told me about the rebuild, but the 188 starts with a touch, sounds tight and doesn't smoke. i'm hoping this guy was just trying to recover his costs on the motor rather than totally bending me over. it's not a great pusher, but i'm hoping the extra torque-tube drain will fix that. from what other 580b owners say... this is a common problem, maybe almost a design flaw ... so fwiw, drilling & tapping the extra hole would likely be a big selling feature. i thought a 580b was a good choice for me... it's kind of a beefed up ag unit, rather than a full-blown industrial machine. smaller footprint, simpler mechanism that i can learn to maintain myself. hopefully, once it's all sorted out, less onerous drain on the bankroll. time will tell if i made the right call. hope that helps.
4 k sounds about right I just bought a 580 c for 6 k in ky it is 1976 but I'm having trouble with injector pump you should just go with your gutt when yo buy used tractors you get somebody elses problems that is just how it goes Hope it works out for you
good post!