I had a guy call me and ask how much it would cost to clear a driveway down to rock back into where he wants to build his house this driveway so he calls it is 1200ft long i consider that a little road lol. So now for the details in spots the soil might be as deep as 1ft and other places 3 inches. What machine do you think would be best for the job dozer or excavator the equipment i have are hitachi 300,D3,bobcat 337. The guy has not said what he wanted to do with all dirt removed, he has mentioned trucking up to where he is going to build the house. I was thinking maybe push it all into a row and load it with the hoe, but wanted to see what your guys thoughts are on this. There is the option of renting a larger dozer I dont really wanna go over a D-5 though cause you have to rent them for a month at a time. Lets here what you have to say. Thanks in advance and how would you guys price this job by the hour? The width will be 15-16ft by 1200ft long.
if i cant just spread the dirt along the side then we keep pushing into small piles about 150ft apart and then load it and move another 150 if you go to far the pile gets so big it might look like the roads gona be 30 ft wide cause you lose so much off the sides then more sod gets disturbed trying to clean it back up. our rule is never rent until last resort
I'm the same way with rentals I own all my equipment free and clear and would be nice to use my own special for a job like this and its a hey field but I was thinking eariler maybe seeing since soil is so thin and on rock maybe just angle my blade to the center and run up on side then come down the other side windrowing it to the center again then using my hitachi 300 and getting on the windrow and loading into trucks and letting them haul it up to where the house will be and dump it but even so I'm still not sure how long it will take most big jobs I do for large contractors is by the day and money isn't really an issue as I even get paid for my lunch and never did this type of push and load before that's why I'm asking for advice as I want to lnow what kind of time line you would think it nice soft soil should just roll of the blade nice. Thanks
what about running a 72 or an 80" smooth edge bucket on the 300 and keep a truck behind you? Point the truck toward the dump point and start at the farthest point? Run the d3 last and clean up with that. 12' wide should take long to clean out with a 300 & it will probably take the same amout of time to strip in with a wide bucket as it would to load the loose windrow. And as for the large, smooth bucket, check with your local scrap yard. You might be able to get a wheel loader / tlb bucket for cheap, and have your local fab shop put bucket ears on it. If you get in a pinch I can get you one for a couple grand for sure.
That's a pretty good idea my friend owns a quarry and has a cat 980 sitting in the corners I believe its a 1980 or so would that bucket be to large?
Now I'm a little puzzled. For sure, mud doesn't make a good road. But when talk about "down to rock", is the rock solid or ??? glacier gravel? Down here, the problem with solid rock is that a) is is uneven and b) you can't grade it smooth . Often times the thinnest soil is removed down to rock and some layer of compactable clay is placed, graded and rolled tight, then covered with crushed stone. An option to renting is subcontracting or partnering with another equipment owner--sometimes another owner may have something that compliments your equipment and yours, his. That can work great. . . or not, depending on who you might have available. Just a thought. . . .
Consult your load chart, you want to be able to dump into a triaxle comfortably. Take the bucket weight and add the weight of a scoop of dirt. Cat performance handbook lists a 3 yd bucket for a 330. And 980 buckets are about 2x that size.
the wide smooth bucket is a great idea keep in mind every inch you remove you have to put back plus at least 4 inches, sound like you are talking 12 to 18 inches of stone
Up here where I am literlly is bed rock flat as flat can be and I've told this guy he is looking at spending serious coin on the stone evem with my 48" bucket I could do it in a day with my 60" I could even faster but it has rock teeth on it and some time you can hit shale in spots
as far as pricing goes down here that job would be about 10.00$ per ft or 12000.00$ in your case for a finished product depending on # of culverts about 9 inches of compacted stone 6 inches of 3inch and 3 inches of 3/4 crusher run
Also i wish i had a load chart but thanks to some kids on job sites most of my windows are made of plexy lol same with my dozer i showed up to a land clearing/barn/house demolition site and found my windows smashed out of all my equipment with a note saying that for wreaking are hang out. So help me god if i would have caught them. and i belive its 26,000-27,000lbs lifting cap if i remeber correctly at 20 feet
we just finished 1 last week that had no bottom though and took 600 ton for 800 ft so it sounds like you guys can more easily plan tonnage with that rock bottom down here its all to the time of year . a march road takes 3 times as much as an july road
I believe that he is going 3- and 5/8 or screening I honestly dont think he has a clue in how much he is looking at spending. but he work for CN rail as a welder so i dought money is an issue what do you think is a good deposit for this job 25%. and is that $10.00 plus material or including material i wish i did some smaller jobs out side of my large contract jobs that friends do all the designing of bid and give the heads up they suppily the material i suppily machines operator and fuel so half the time i just see a set figure to bid at and have to wait 30 days to get paid havn't did much by foot or anything. All help would be much apperiacted thank you for all your help so far guys
we get 50% down on a job like this due to high material cost and 10$ does include stone but our stone runs about 8$ for crusher run and 12$ for clean 3'' and like i said thats for 9'' only comes out to about 1/2 ton per ft and normally we are already there digging foundation and running ultilities
I would have to have the machine floated in and out of this job and I wold have to talk to him more to see what he is going to do for sure. He is going to get a major eye opener when he get the price of material and excavation i just wish i had ditching buckets and a quick attach man would that be luxury lol.
strip it with the 300 and finish it with the 3. simple. load directly into a tandem and stockpile
float it in! does the stone get floated to ? this sounds like a 30.00$ a ft rd. what type of septic system do you use up there with rock that shallow our regulation requires a minumum of 48'' to solid rock and even that depth is exspensive due to the need for an hau prior to drainfield we need 60'' to use a standard tank . a septic here in less than 48'' of soil can be as high as 20,000$ compared to about 5-6,000$ with 60'' of soil . the depth to rock also applies to ground water level
Well I don't own my own float truck yet as most of the time this ex is on job site often months not days. And all the rock can be picked up from the quarry and delivered to the site with no problems by sub-contracted trucks and a sept system like this would have to be built with a small holding tank that would pump up to a septic tank which would have to basicly hual in sand to cover around the tank and then haul in sand and gravel for the weepers all in all you have a hump that sticks out of the ground looking like a pile of dirt about 8 tall depending on tank and bed size
It seems this question has been asked here as well: HeavyEquipmentForums Perhaps one of the mods might want to merge the threads, is it a dozer question or jobsite coordination? Ahh right, just saw Diesel chicken closed the other thread.
yes I made it not thinking but i dont know how to delete the one in jobsite coordination?
I think only a moderator or admin can delete posts/threads.