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Screaming ford tow truck assembly

King of Obsolete ยท 2014-09-18 23:30

i have decided to add an attachment for turning the Screaming Ford into a tow truck. a little thought is reguired on making the "A" frame to support the vehicle that i'm picking up. since it was raining off and on today in the Kingdom, i was able to hide in my little shop and get a good start on the top pulley for the weight box. i then started to cut out the 1" plate for the hinges on the "A" frame part before it got to dark to see. i have whipped up a simple picture on what is going to happen plus included a picture of the weight box from last winter when i brought home a broken axle from a semi truck. more to come. thansk KoO Published Author

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  1. #1King of Obsolete2014-09-19 08:42

    here are some pictures for td25c who is helping me through the message box thing. i borrowed these pictures from this website which features 2 old oil field trucks. this is the "A" frame thing i would like to build. http://nicholasfluhart.com/tag/oil-field-winch-bed-truck/ thansk KoO Published Author

  2. #2td25c2014-09-19 21:42

    Thanks for the pictures KoO . Yes I have seen tow sling / A frame's like that in the past . They work , only thing I might do is incorporate a swivel joint on the end so the pipe can pivot left or right though a sharp turn or on uneven terrain . I see now why you were asking about how they corner . Sometimes due to the geometry of the boom & sling when you make a hard turn , the towed vehicle will also lean in to the turn . Some times quite a bit . Has a twisting effect on the towed vehicle . This is what the Homes sling looks like turning . Depends a lot on where the boom sheave is ( cable angle ) in proximity to the sling . http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/td25c/media/100_3096_zps90c95b8c.mp4.html?sort=3&o=0

  3. #3td25c2014-09-19 22:34

    This is a typical hook up KoO . Use high grade 5/8 chain & 1/2 inch aluminum angle across the frame . Safety chains between the sling hook to spring hangers .

  4. #4King of Obsolete2014-09-20 09:55

    thansk, i had to wait till morning to do anything on the internet because it was so slow last night. i also finished the stick people drawing so everyone can see the whole truck. td25c can you replay back to the PM i sent you. thansk KoO Published Author

  5. #5King of Obsolete2014-09-20 22:55

    i had a good day today building pieces of the "A" frame for the Screaming Ford. the day started off raining so i was able to watch td25c video several time before i went outside to start building. lots of good info in the video which gave me lots of ideas on how to build the cradle thing for the great white north. i'll be sending td25c a couple of books for helping me out as an early xmas present. just need your full name to go with your address because the post office people want all the details now days. i was able to make the hinge pieces for the back of the Screaming Ford in my little shop because of the rain. first i got a little wet cutting out the pieces and did a little grinding to get them ready for assembly. next i tack welded the pieces to the work bench and then welded the jig steel in to place. with the jig steel in place i can now weld the whole unit to the back of the Screaming Ford without worrying about a bunch of measurments. less thought required at my age, lol. next i found some 2.25 shaft with 3" bushing to make the cradle thing pivot. one thing i hate the most is grinding so i free hand cut the holes for the shaft so i didn't have to do a bunch of grinding. i needed a tight holes and that is what i got. this saved on a lot of welding being tight. by 8pm at night it was dark and i used a flashlite to finish welding the pivot to the cradle thing. thansk KoO Published Author.

  6. #6td25c2014-09-20 23:20

    Yeah KoO . Don't know if I would worry about the weight box . The old Ford will have plenty of weight on the rear with another truck hanging off the back . I would build a solid mast that rests on the rear frame of the ford , snaps in to the fith wheel ( just like a trailer ) and go with heavy brackets off the front down to the truck frame with a long bolt or all thread to tie the mast down snug to the Ford frame .

  7. #7td25c2014-09-20 23:32

    Excellent work on the hinge brackets KoO ! Pay attention all ..... That's the work of a true fabricator:thumbsup

  8. #8King of Obsolete2014-09-20 23:33

    i thought of that too and did research on the internet on those style of fifth wheel tow truck assemblies. only problem up here is the rocks and more rocks. the weight box came from the nickel mine when they shut down and it is made of 1/2 steel plate. i figure it weighs about 2 tons and gives the ford a nice ride plus protects the truck from flying rocks. my winter snow tires with the big grips can throw rocks every where. also with the pulley stick welded to the back of the weigh box i will be able to use it for lifting things that need to be welded up on the winter road. thansk KoO Published Author

  9. #9King of Obsolete2014-09-20 23:39

    "i work with the metal and do with what i can", not sure who the famous person who said that would be but it sounds impressive, lol. if i had a lathe then i could make things that i need but i don't have a lathe to i work with what i have. up in the great white north everything has to be heavier and stronger then anything in the south. it was easy making things today because everything was well thought out from the thickness of plate, how much material is required around the pin holes. also the pivots were easy and if i drilled all the holes with a hole saw, that would have taken another 6 hours. it is easier to torch a tight hole, less grinding and less welding. when i torch the plate all i do is use the grinder to "buff" the slag off. i hate grinding, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  10. #10King of Obsolete2014-09-20 23:41

    the missing picture.

  11. #11King of Obsolete2014-09-20 23:46

    here is a picture of the weight box the night i installed the $1000.00 work light. the wieght box holds the welder, tools and lots of blocking for when we head up the winter road. with all the tire chains on,the weight box protects the back of the cab and decking from snow and rocks. thansk KoO Published Author

  12. #12dieseldog5.92014-09-21 08:36

    Nice job, your hole cutting ability is impressive, I have an issue with your picture, an L9000 has a shorter slopping nose, you drew a W900 A model long nose, thinking a 1977. I almost pissed my pants when you added the people to "finish the picture". I will send you some graph paper, I assume your address is on the website.

  13. #13King of Obsolete2014-09-21 09:20

    thansk for the kind words on the torching. i learned a long time ago to cut the pieces perfect and less grinding. grinding is what takes up all the time fabing up a job. it was td25c who started off with the simple draws because it was just PM between us both, then i decided to share with the rest of the world. thansk KoO Published Author

  14. #14King of Obsolete2014-09-21 22:44

    it took about an hour to free hand cut the 2 pipe for the "A" frame on the cradle. i weld the pieces to the rafter trailer then worked away at getting a nice fit on the first pipe then copied it to the second pipe. another hour was spent welding up the "A" frame then joining it to the cradle. finished up tonight with the "A" frame and cradle mounted on the Screaming Ford. will slip the weight box on in the morning then i can figure out where to mount the pulley on a stick. thansk KoO Published Author

  15. #15Diagonal Brace2014-09-22 10:12

    Looks great! Need to paint the rest of the truck frame now.

  16. #16JDOFMEMI2014-09-22 17:39

    KoO Nice work as always. You are well on the way to another very useful tool.

  17. #17overworked2014-09-22 17:56

    Nice work. KoO does the weight box attach to the frame? Or just sit on fifth wheel, I'm thinking if it sits on wheel and attached in front of wheel the the weight would be on wheel and not come off the steer tires like if it puts weight on after the fifth wheel? Overworked

  18. #18King of Obsolete2014-09-22 23:20

    Diagonal Brace -- i'll be splashing more paint as i go along with this project. it has taken me over 20 years to get the truck painted almost one colour, lol. JDOFMEMI -- thansk, the Screaming Ford keeps on getting better every year. overworked -- the weight box just clips in to the fifth wheel and then i chain the back of the box to the frame to keepit straight and from bouncing around. once i'm done i'll make a quick video of how this all works. today was a busy day in the Kingdom, the history channel released a 3 minute video of Ricochet Hill and the phone has not stop tonight along with the emails. http://www.history.com/shows/ice-road-truckers/videos i don't know how many times i have missed the corner on Ricochet Hill but it does look good on camera for some reason, lol. after supper tonight, i got to slip the weight box on the Screaming Ford and do a jimmie rigg on the pulley on a stick. everything looks good so i then flipped the weight box to start welding better frame anchors on the box. more to come. thansk KoO Published Author

  19. #19Old Doug2014-09-23 13:16

    Looking good KoO but i wonder if the pulley being so far back of the sling frame if the truck being towed will want to ride up and hit the weight box. I have built 3 wrecker units for pickups. My cusin after seeing the first one told me you never want your sling frame to go higher than level he has build several wreakers.

  20. #20overworked2014-09-23 14:17

    Old Doug, good point, you want it to fold up when not in use, but if you hit a bounce going down hill you don't want it coming up and into back of weight box.

  21. #21King of Obsolete2014-09-24 09:43

    thansk guys, good point on the "A" frame going over centre plus i could not figure out why td25c holmes wrecker had the "A" frame mounted so high on the back of the deck bed. after 14 years of use with the weight box, i found out last winter when things go wrong they really go wrong. i eneded up with weight box sideways on the fifth wheel and a few borken chain but i was glad the weight box had ripped away from it mount brackets at the back. if the brackets had not broken things could have been worse. that is why i decided to mount the "A" frame on the back of the truck frame because it is soild. will have to figure out a stopper thing. it was only $200.00 and 1200kms for me to get the last of the needed parts to finish the tow truck parts. i didn't shop around and get things on sale like i usually do but just buy it now. i needed grade 70 hooks and ratchet binder of good quality and i didn't mind paying the price. i'll just sell a few more of my books and it will all work out, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  22. #22td25c2014-09-24 21:52

    Old Doug has a good point . Easy solution is leave existing welded hinges on the truck frame as it is handy to have two positions like if you had to tow a car or pickup you might want the lower set of hinges . Weld a second set of hinges on the weight box for taller vehicles . Sometimes We will haul a semi trailer on the sling so the hinge point would need to be higher for that type of job .

  23. #23td25c2014-09-24 22:17

    King and myself use the same engineering firm . I tell ya what ! I'm getting tired of paying these guys good money to plan out a project to only get simple hand drawings on paper with no measurements . I need to go have a talk with those guys . Last time I was in there office they were busy drinking barley soda & had a pool table out in the middle of the room where the drafting table should have been . Damn ! It's hard to get good help anymore . LOL .

  24. #24King of Obsolete2014-09-24 23:37

    once i read olddoug's reply and then to have overworked agree, that is when i changed my plans. the weight box started off in 2003 as a quick way to cover the wheel and give the truck a nicer ride when bobtailing. then in 2005 i angled the frame rails to allow for the tilt deck to tilt now in 2014 i wanted to use the weight box as the point of down ward thrust from the pulley on a stick. the back frame rails were never designed for this because they are really thin from being angled. i was well on my way to creating my own problems by asking a thin set of frame rails to support all the weight of the vehicle i'm towing. i think i would have made the second bump which is 50 feet out side the Kingdom, then have the back of the frame rails bend until the front wheels of the vehicle i'm towing are back on the ground. the plan today was to get the weight box level and sitting normal. this is easy because it is well balanced so it only took a couple of wood blocks as spacers to get the box sitting level. next i cut some 3x3 tubing to sit on the angled frame rails which will spread the weight load over the frame rails not just putting all the weight in a 3" area. then i measured out a complete back plate of steel to cover in the space between the weight box and the truck frame to keep any rocks from flying up to the vehicle being towed. then i got the phone call for a tow job which is a 200km round trip on the Kinoosao Rally Road. the road was in good shape so i made money on the $800.00 minum charge for a vehicle on the tandem trailer pulled by the pink crew cab which was a 6 hour round trip today. somedays it can be a 10 hour trip so the profit margin in a little less, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  25. #25King of Obsolete2014-09-28 23:20

    since it is the rainy season in the great white north we have to sit things out until the weather changes. today was only -7c and i was able to get some work done on the weight box when it warmed up this afternoon. i flipped the box then found a piece of steel to make the back of the weight box support. cut a few angle pieces then called it a day at supper time. thansk KoO Published Author

  26. #26overworked2014-09-29 06:12

    KoO maybe a adjustable limit stop for the a frame off of the rear plate?

  27. #27King of Obsolete2014-09-29 08:39

    overworked -- that what i'm thinking about since the road are so rough up here and i also do winter roads. everything has to be so adjustable because it is the Great White North. thansk KoO Published Author

  28. #28JDOFMEMI2014-09-29 20:12

    If the new rear piece on the weight box is strong enough, how about another set of mounting eyes high enough up to not be a problem. Then you have two options.

  29. #29King of Obsolete2014-09-30 08:37

    yes i'm thinking about that too. doing lots of thinking while burning rod, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  30. #30td25c2014-09-30 22:05

    Looks good KoO . With the new addition of steel on the weight box support you now have a full tailboard at the rear to mount D- rings on for extra pull points & tie down eyelets for the scotch block chain behind the truck wheels for winch out's . What is your favorite rod of choice for welding in the Kingdom ? We burn 1/8 inch 6011 & 7018's on most jobs .

  31. #31harleytramp2014-10-04 19:33

    Very good job. You are very talented. I am sure that will work well for you

  32. #32King of Obsolete2014-10-16 10:18

    JDOFMEMI -- thansk, will be looking in to the second set. td25c -- thansk, i burns 3/32, 18 and the manly 3/16 rods of 7018 excalitur by lincoln. never had much luck with 6011 for some reason. harleytramp -- thansk, getting close to testing the tow truck out. we got busy in the Kingdom and did not get much done on the weight box. i ended up putting the box in the heated shop so i could work on it at night. yesterday i brought the box outside so i could burn some 3/16 on all the joints. then i did a test fit on the Screaming Ford when it got dark. thansk KoO Published Author

  33. #33Old Doug2014-10-16 13:26

    I had a ideal and built it but never used it. I took a tow bar and made pivot points on my pickups rear bumper them welded a ball to my pipe for the sling. I had alot of what ifs so i never used it.

  34. #34td25c2014-10-16 22:26

    Rear fame support brackets look good KoO . Should make for a solid mount of the weight box to the screaming Ford .

  35. #35King of Obsolete2014-10-17 09:40

    thansk guys. the weather turned nasty so i have to work in side the little shop to get this project finished. before the weight box went in the shop i used the loader to hold the pulley on a stick to where i needed it to be. after supper i cut a few plates and did a little welding. thansk KoO Published Author

  36. #36overworked2014-10-17 23:16

    Looking pretty nice, like the updates.

  37. #37King of Obsolete2014-10-17 23:38

    thansk, had a good day on the weight box and finished up by splashing some paint on it. hopefully will be able to test it out this weekend. thansk KoO Published Author

  38. #38JDOFMEMI2014-10-18 16:56

    KoO, with PAINT!!!! No one will recognize it as yours with fresh paint and all Looks like your idea is coming together nicely. I look forward to hearing about how it works when you get to use it.

  39. #39King of Obsolete2014-10-19 22:09

    i ended up taking a day off because of the flu. it knocked my socks right off and had me laid out flat on the bed with a bucket beside my head. this does not happen very often but i survived, lol. this afternoon i finished up on the tow truck part and did a test run with a dodge truck. now to teat it out with something bigger, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  40. #40King of Obsolete2014-10-20 20:45

    we did the first tow call today and the system worked fine. the road was extra rough and we had to cross chain the bread truck to the swivel pipe because it kept sliding side to side. yes the road was that rough, lol. a few little improvments and bigger chains for bigger equipment is all we need to be offically finished on this project. once again, thank you to the BB for helping with another project. thansk joey

  41. #41overworked2014-10-20 21:40

    King, how does the steering feel when hooked up? Does it take much weight off the front of the screaming Ford? Overworked

  42. #42King of Obsolete2014-10-20 21:52

    no problem with the steering. the Screaming Ford is front heavy with all the fuel tanks, tire chains, winch and of course all the tools. i the bread wagon gave the truck a nice ride on the rough road. can't wait to try something heavier, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  43. #43td25c2014-10-20 22:06

    That's great KoO ! Glad to see the screaming Ford passed the test on the maiden voyage .

  44. #44King of Obsolete2014-10-20 22:13

    first we tried the toy dodge which worked ok, then we travelled 4 hours for the main test. i got my co-star gerry to bring the pink crew cab incase things went bad and we needed to run and get the welder or torches to fix the screw up. where the road was good (ok, maybe 50 feet) i was able to pull 25 miles per hour no problem. the bread wagon did not push the Screaming Ford around considering the hils and curves. thansk KoO Published Author

  45. #45overworked2014-10-21 09:40

    Maybe some radiator hose over the tube to help keep things in place. Or old mudflap.

  46. #46td25c2014-10-21 21:17

    As overworked mentioned a piece of rubber of some kind would help . Conveyer belt works good . Cross chaining as KoO did is the best remedy for the problem when in doubt as in his neck of the woods on rough & twisting roads . One other item needed on the Screaming Ford recovery rig is a piece of aluminum angle to use between the sling & bumper or frame rails with bumper removed . http://www.awdirect.com/lightweight-aluminum-angle-for-heavy-duty-towing-pd30b/heavy-duty-towing/ It's a must for towing with a sling . Most of the time we have to remove the bumper on a front tow . Don't build bumpers like they used to . I generally let a few inches of the 5/8 chain hang below the hooks of the Holmes sling . Then the chain bites in hard on the aluminum angle as if in a vice so to speak & helps keep things from slipping sideways . You can see on my old angle in the last two pictures how on the out side edge corner the chain digs in . And on the inside can see indentations of bolt heads & other sharp items at the end of a frame rail of a towed truck . I'm just glad that piece of aluminum angle cant talk . LOL

  47. #47JDOFMEMI2014-10-21 22:46

    If I may add to td25c's comment, one reason for the extra chain links he mentions is so that the crossbar sets up in front of the frame instead of below it. This helps keep the towed truck from trying to ride up over the crossbar and push its way up the lift chains.

  48. #48td25c2014-10-22 22:52

    Great point Jerry ! Thanks for bringing that up . Seems like 2 to 3 links below the crossbar hooks with the 5/8 chain is the sweet spot . Puts the crossbar in front of the frame & still puts a snug corner on the aluminum angle . It's different on every truck . I've rigged them so many times for a hook up that I judge it buy type of truck , suspension , loaded or empty to determine chain length on the sling when hooking up . Lift it up with the winches , hook up safety chains & light bar . Then let the clutch out on wrecker & pull forward for about 10 feet and stop tapping the brakes . Hop back out & look everything over as this will set the chains . If it all looks good take off & don't look back .

  49. #49King of Obsolete2014-10-22 23:23

    thansk guys, learning more every day and will be looking at finding some angle iron. last night i added some cross chain hooks to the swivel pipe, added hooks to the pulley on a stick for extra chains to be hooked there, plus added round rod for the extra chains to hang some where instead of dragging on the ground. finished up with mud flaps on the front of the weight box to keep the mud off the deck of the Screaming Ford. i put anything that is needed as a tow truck on a pallet then put the pallet in the storage trailer so i can find what i need at -40c and 3 feet of snow. then added a time line with yellow paint pen on when i took the box from the mine and made it in to the weight box, then as a tow truck. the joys of getting old, lol. thansk KoO Publsihed Author

  50. #50old-iron-habit2014-10-23 09:16

    One of the things our local heavy wrecker company here carries is a heavy piece of 4" square heavy aluminum tubing in addition to the aluminum angle. They use it across the front of the frame itself back a bit from the bumper to get the chains away from putting much if any strain on the bumper on these new cardboard front end trucks. Many times they have both the 4" and the angle in place.

  51. #51King of Obsolete2014-10-30 20:09

    got the call just after morning coffee to tow a motor home off the highway. i didn't ask what cousin eddie from the griswold vacation was doing at the end of the world. the chrome bumper and grill had to be removed so i could weld up a channel iron frame for the swivel pipe to sit in. i did lots of chaining and more chaining to make sure the motor home stayed in the centre of the swivel pipe. the hard part was getting the motor home down by the lake for the people because the ground was not smooth and i did not want to rip off any plumbing parts from underneath. it was a fun job and it was a great day for a drive, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  52. #52Steve Frazier2014-10-31 05:52

    I haven't seen an old Winnebago like that for years!

  53. #53overworked2014-10-31 09:32

    King, in ten years you will have the weight box full of all those special adapters, weather looks nice.

  54. #54td25c2014-11-02 10:51

    Nice work KoO , another job under the belt . Like Steve I haven't seen a Winnebago in a long time . Used to be a common sight . I want to say they used a 440 Dodge engine .

  55. #55overworked2014-11-14 07:59

    KoO, how's it going up there? Any more big jobs for the ford?

  56. #56King of Obsolete2014-11-27 17:45

    thansk guys, it has been slow because it has been too cold to do anything. i ended up doing 2 tub surrounds at the hotel. it is a good thing i have welding awards, welding tickets so i can work with wood, lol. as for the motor home i never checked it too closely but i think it is a 440 dodge engine by what the experts at the cafe table of truth were saying. one of the reasons i built the tow truck part for the Screaming Ford is because of the new style vehicles with the def system. this school bus was nothing but troubles last year but we flat towed it behind anything that would pull it. only problem is the brakes are electric so when the dead battery dies even more then stopping is a problem. today i got to tow the school bus and it worked out great. i removed the leveling rod on the air bags to drop it right down. chain the axle to the frame through the shock mounts. the swivel pipe fitted nicely into the tow hooks and bumper to get a good lift. tied the steering wheel to the mirror and off i went with the tire chains on. i had no problem backing in to the hangar with the 60 foot wide door. they will thaw out the bus and it will run again untill the def fuel system shuts the bus down. then i'll tow it again, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  57. #57td25c2014-11-29 10:28

    That was good thinking dropping the air off & chaining up the axil on the bus . We always chain up the axils on air ride trucks out of fear that the shock absorber wont hold and end up damaging an air bag . Yep , rope off steering wheel to mirror frame or wing window post . Have also tied off at the seat belt locations in the cab or seat frame itself . Some new trucks don't have a sturdy mirror frame or window post to tie off to . Small nylon ratchet straps also seem to work good . Another thing to keep in mind on those rear tow jobs is securing the tilt hood . More times then not after a truck breaks down the hood gets opened to see what the problem is , then they shut it and forget to latch it down . Or if the hood latches are a little loose I will also throw a safety strap across the hood to keep it from flying open while in route . Keep up the good work KoO !

  58. #58King of Obsolete2014-11-29 10:51

    yes, one thing i learned over the years is use the air bags to get height when loading on the beaver tail trailer and always let the air out of air bags when tieing the truck down on the semi trailer. the school bus took a lot of thought to tow but i knew someday i would be towing it. i just took ,y time and took lots of pictures so i would not be blamed for damage. never thought of the hood thing and it makes sense in not relatching it after the hood was opened. once again the computer is making me smarter. thansk KoO Published Author

  59. #59OCR2014-11-29 21:20

    KoO, you hold a Master's degree using a cutting torch... :thumbsup OCR...

  60. #60King of Obsolete2014-12-28 10:52

    xena and i had to wait a week for the temperature to drop from -11c to -31c so we could do this tow job. the winter road is plowed out but not opened for another month but that did not stop us. we went and got the wagon i left in the bush in may. it was a quick trip and the winter road was excellent. thansk KoO Published Author

  61. #61King of Obsolete2014-12-28 11:29

    i forgot to add a picture of the wagon as it was being used in may 2014. thansk KoO Published Author

  62. #62RonG2014-12-28 12:50

    I have been away for a while but I have to accept that I will never get caught up on the old posts here.It is still nice to see that you are still here Joey and I shiver just looking at those pics.The first thing that comes to mind is how that rig starts in that weather.Those old Detroits are legendary in their ability to start in cold weather if they will turn over and you have enough ether you won't walk.Do you plug it in at night?Ron G

  63. #63King of Obsolete2014-12-28 13:20

    good to see you back rong. yes i have a 1500 watt block heater and i have to have at least 12 hours of heat up time to ensure a good start in cold temps. it is the air system that always gives problems but i have enough valves and places to "pour" the alcohol in that it will build air, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  64. #64still learn'n2014-12-28 22:44

    Koo maybe this has been asked before but how do you have your brakes unlocked in the cold weather? or maybe other people don't have problems with that! Jerry

  65. #65Shimmy12014-12-28 22:51

    KoO, do you know if there are going to be camera crews chasing around up there this winter? Just curious, I kinda get a kick out of the lunacy that they seem to create. I'm sure you would prefer them to stay away.

  66. #66RonG2014-12-29 02:53

    Most of the trucks around here have "air driers" in the brake systems with automatic bleeders to keep the moisture under control and even have heaters on the bleeders to keep them thawed out so that they can work. I saw a guy pour alcohol into the compressor intake before starting which locked up the compressor and toasted it on the spot.I have the utmost respect for you and your lifestyle,there are not too many people that could do what you do.Just having that 1" plate on hand to use to fabricate things is impressive.Ron G

  67. #67td25c2014-12-29 05:55

    I second that RonG ! It those temps I would want a wood stove in the cab of the truck .

  68. #68FSERVICE2014-12-29 19:00

    don't everyone have a sheet of 1" plate laying around?? I thought that was a must have like the torch!!! LOL

  69. #69King of Obsolete2015-02-13 20:43

    the true test on the tow truck for the Screaming Ford happened this week but first i would like to thank the people of this BB for the help in making it a success. i got a call to head 300kms up the winter road and get my friends tilt deck only problem is there is a bus un the deck. no problem this will make the job more fun, lol. it took 12 hours to travel up the winter road and i was making good time. i arrived at the tilt deck at 9pm and started stripping it so i could haul it safely with out wrecking it. the base temp was -36c and a wind chill of -48c which made it fun for working. the stripping part was easy compared to getting air in the tilt deck to release the brakes and air in the air bags. by 4 am i was under way and never looked back for the next 24 hours because it was pretty interesting. when i arrived in the Kingdom this morning it was a very successful trip and now the fun begins on re-assembley of the tilt deck. thansk KoO Published Author

  70. #70clintm2015-02-13 21:27

    why did you take the radiator off was it because it would hit.

  71. #71King of Obsolete2015-02-13 21:33

    yes the rad hangs down really low and i did not want any damage to the truck. the winter road can be tough on vehicles and even tougher on them when you are towing them. thansk KoO Published Author

  72. #72td25c2015-02-13 21:50

    Wow King , that's more like an arctic expedition ! That's a shame you could not rig up for a rear tow on the tilt deck . Did not look like you would have had room with the bus hanging off the back of the bed . Another job well done my friend :thumbsup Oh yeah .... Ask your buddy if he wants the belts replaced on the tilt deck while it's handy

  73. #73King of Obsolete2015-02-13 22:07

    td-25c -- it would have been nice but the bus was the main concern because it is a good contract. the bus comes out every year for a safety and repairs, then hauled back in. i had to do the tow in the best interest of the bus not the tilt deck. when i broke the news to my friend on the fact the rad was removed, i asked him to send up a set of rad hoses because i just cut the hoses because it was faster plus it was time for new ones, lol. all he said was no problem and how is the bus?? about 5 years ago he had a bus get damaged when the operator decided it would be faster to load the bus from a sand loading ramp then use the tilt deck. well the bus and the sand ramp did not get a long too well because the low step got bent pretty good. only problem was the bus was being returned and had to be hauled out for repairs. saving time and trying to do it fast cost my friend $10,000.00 worht of headaches. now he has strict rules on loading and unloading the bus. the tilt deck driver sat in the bus for 18 hours until he was able to catch a ride to the Kingdom. all he could do is run the engine to stay warm and not remove it from the deck of the town truck. besides the winter road would have done a lot of damage to the bus being so low to the ground. thansk KoO Published Author

  74. #74King of Obsolete2015-10-13 00:04

    it is time for a new adventure to start in the Kingdom using the tow truck part. on the long turkey day weekend in canada we got the 2 boats up and floating. a friend of mine pulled them around to the west side of kinoosao so we could drag them out of the water. now i'm building a dolly axle for behind the boat and will use the towing cradle to lift the front of the boat. it should tow nicely if everything works out, lol. more to come thansk KoO Published Author

  75. #75RonG2015-10-13 04:15

    Nice to see you are still in action Joey.Ron G

  76. #76King of Obsolete2015-10-13 09:15

    thansk ron g. i whipped up a blue print of how i'm going to tow these boats. it is simple by putting an axle under the back and then use the cradle to lift the front. i have taken a semi trailer axle and added 2 more feet to make it 10 feet wide. more to come as i build this. thansk KoO Published Author

  77. #77RonG2015-10-13 12:15

    Better patent it...lol.Ron G

  78. #78King of Obsolete2015-10-13 13:08

    i don't think i have to worry, i'm the only guy crazy enough for this, lol thansk KoO Published Author

  79. #79gtermini2015-10-13 13:33

    Life seems more interesting when you don't have to constantly worry about the DOT busting you... Greyson

  80. #80King of Obsolete2015-10-13 19:07

    gtermini -- the DOT are getting to be as bad as the mosquitos up here. they are bsting everyone and taking the fun out of trucking. oh well. thansk KoO Published Author

  81. #81clintm2015-10-13 20:34

    how far and why are you moving the boats

  82. #82td25c2015-10-13 20:35

    Look's good KoO . That's how my 10' wide low boy was built , axils cut in half and add a two foot section . It works . HeavyEquipmentForums

  83. #83King of Obsolete2015-10-14 00:00

    clintm -- we moved the boat from the east shore of kinoosao around to the west shore and dragged them out of the water. they had been sitting for 30 years and time to clean up. i'll then put wheels under them and drag them 100 kms to the Kingdom over the Kinoosao Rally Road. i hope to have one in the water next summer for a little fishing, lol. td25c -- we are getting old, i remeber that post when chaz was still working a murray tailers. that was a long time ago, lol. when i widened the axles i used the tubing from another axle for the extension, then found some drill rod that i have been saving for 19 years and it was a tight fit. i made the pipe go from one side to the other side for added strength. i have to build this dolly to do other things too so we can't cheap out on strength, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  84. #84td25c2015-10-16 21:48

    Well done KoO ! The dolly should be plenty stout for any task you need it for .

  85. #85td25c2015-10-16 22:00

    Aint that the truth KoO ! Age is creeping up on us . I'm about the same ... Don't throw anything away as we will need it for a future project .

  86. #86King of Obsolete2015-11-18 22:00

    it took a while but i got my boat axle finished and plumbed with air. just waiting for some tires and we will be good to go. i'm now making the part for the A frame cradle to hook up to the boat which is being built without a stick figure blue print. i welded the crap out of the thick plate to the channel iron which bent it good. now i'm happy because i can't work with anything straight, lol. thansk KoO Published Author

  87. #87King of Obsolete2020-02-19 18:53

    it has been 6 years since I built the Pulley on a Stick to make the Screaming Ford a tow truck. last week at -32c we were out hauling in a broken one off the winter road. (trying to learn the new BB format here) thansk