http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gMt2h70FwoI&feature=related Do side booms have any kind of warning system that lets you know its about to tip over? Are the conterweights controled automaticly to balance or are they just moved by the operator? And any info on them in general would be cool, I see them used for locomotive recoveries and wondered what the weight limit is for their lifting.
Bet the first guy to go over was saying oh ****!! All in all, it went smoother than i was expecting though. I always thought these were neat machines, I'd like to know more about them too.
booms Cant comment on the newer hi-drive and hyd booms, but what you witness there is the speed at which you can get rid of weight with manual clutch & brakes. Although they went beyond the limits none of the machines went over and nobody got hurt, says experienced ops to me :notworthy I am not saying what they did was right, obviously it wasn't, as they lost control, eg were overloaded. It is stated in the blurb that the intention was to SLIDE the pipe down the side of the ditch, so somebody knew they were operating on the border line of lift capacity. Just somebody didn't keep a tight rein on procceedings As to the weights, they are operator controled and when you are ready to lift you put them out as faaaaaar as they will go. The overload warning device ( on the older models) is situated just below the operators waist at the rear, above the top of the legs. Its generally a crack that tightens as the offside track starts to lift :cool2
A few times I was fortunate enough to work around them, and observe them in operation. When they were lowering-in it sometimes they would have about 3 or 4 feet of air under the right side track like it was nothing.
side boom can be very fun to run and yet very scary at the same time. if you look at the pics in my gallery you will find pics of 583k side booms that will lift about 140,000 lbs. you will see excavators holding down on the weight rack sometimes for more lift. where we go you sometimes cant get a bigger rig in there so say what you want about saftey and what not, i love running side booms keeps you on the edge of you seat. http://www.budandraven.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=322
You do what you gota do trainwreck I know exactly what you mean. 14 booms ( 2 x 594 ) rest were 583's + 1 Hitachi crawler crane, cross carriage. 48" shotcreted pipe for a river crossing. Once in place every other boom had extra weight before lowering off. Some had a D8 winch some had backhoes sitting on thier weights. I will dig the pics out
Some companies use there track loaders for counterweight too! The first pic is swinging the car to the left. The second and third pics are from the same lift, they were swinging the far end of the car to the right. Sorry about the blur I was still getting used to the camera.
we use sidebooms daily around work.. and there are many good things and bad things about them.. it takes some one with some serious know how and seat time to be good. other wise there very dangerous.. if we get in a situation where they might tip we usually use an track ho to put extra weight on the counter weights. seeing some of the old guys run them is pure rythm. its like magic. ive ran them a few times and i honestly dont like them. the newer hydro units have no quick realase in sense to the old manny units.
sidebooms Can never find the pictures you really want when you want them, but here are a couple that show what we used for extra ballast :drinkup
The pics on the railroad are of RJ Corman's guys. They do pretty good work. I had a Samsung 280that quit on me, straddle of a main rail line. They came out and drug it off. Heard the bill was enormous too.
Supervision!! If the foreman lowering in are making tie-ins Don't know whats happening ? Then anything can go wrong. I've ran a boom for 20+ years all over the country . mountains to swamp on 48" & 8" .. I can tell if there is going to be a screw up before it happens..
Maximum Load Indicator for Pipe Layers We sell Liebherr pipe layers world wide, we even shipped some 80 tons machines (weight approx 150.000 lbs. each) by plane (Antonov 124)from Germany to one of the former Russian republics ! We only sell with Roll Over Protection System (ROPS) to prevent the machine from squashing the operator. No hardhat or safety shoes will keep this kind of weight ! We know of a number of fatalities, mostly on slopes where the machines are less stable already. There are electronic devices available (green/orange/red light) to indicate if the machine is lifting towards the maximum weight. These systems even calculate if the machine is on a slope (either forwards, backwards or sideways). It is true that experienced operators feel when the machine is on the limit, even without the outer track being 3 feet in the air ! Wanted to insert some pictures but how ???
Welcome aboard. You need to have made 3 posts then wait an hour and you will be able to post pictures.
Thanks Rob :notworthy Probably some emty ones, I like to share the pictures so no time to loose !
Em p ty that is...... :bash
OK! so wheres the pictures :bouncegri
Here are some !
Nice pics, does seem odd seeing them trundling into an aircraft though Have you got any more side boom pics. :drinkup
Side Booms See some below, all Liebherr hydrostatic driven machines. :beerchug
Great shots, thanks for posting. Those are the first hydraulic booms I've seen from any manufacturer. :drinkup Do all Leibherrs booms have a wider track pad on the lifting side. I caught a glancing view of a sideboom on transport one day and was sure one track was wider than the other but by the time it actually registered in between the ears as to what I had seen it was too late for a second look :Banghead as a result I dont even know what make it was. I'm guessing those two with the folding booms are about C@t 572 size, and I take it that the folding boom is to allow them to be ready for work on arrival. What sort of capacity can they handle as that top section doesnt appear very robust, if you get my meaning. At first glance I wondered if they were intended as stringing booms. on edit Now I think they are paywelders and that jib is to hold the canopy :Banghead
594's Heres some shots of recon 594's that landed in my mailbox this week, only 395000 Euro
Side booms Hi Rob, All Liebherrs booms indeed have a wider track pad on the lifting side. This to have a lower ground pressure and being able to work closer to the ditch. Machine has a 6,7 ltr. 132HP engine We also have paywelders, these however have same track width on both sides. The two with folding boom are 20-tons machines (CAT 572 = 40 tons.). The top is a special boom extension which can lift about 1 ton (welding tent). With only the standard boom it still does 4 tons over 5 m. The remaining boom is foldable and it folds over the cab, providing easy transport. See below picture :yup This machine also has a rear platform with generator and welding positions to use it as a paywelder. We call this a Multi.
I spotted the rear platforms after I posted which suddenly gave me the idea of the boom extension to lift a tent and it being a paywelder. That folding boom sure does look like a very niffty bit of kit. Very easy to transport and ready to rock on arrival :notworthy
Weighload warning Rob I have done a stack of work on Side Booms, but I have never had my spanners on the W/L/W/S you described, they must be on the "Newer Stuff" tctractors
:lmao took me a minute to work that one out, no I wouldnt expect you anywhere near it with a spanner
Rob, from where (who ?) did you get the offer for the CAT 594's ?
Its from one of the many outfits I contacted several years ago when looking for a duck, I haven't got around to "unsubscribing" from thier database as once in a while something intresting drops in the "inbox" MHS Salzkotten
Have you got any more side boom pics
Hi Rob, these was my machines and their sold to a Nigerian client. Price was 300.000 Euro each unit complete rebuild with new sideboom equipment. The machines got a conversion from a old D9G to a fully hydraulic sideboom. Regards Patrick www.nat-rausch.de
Welcome aboard Patrick, hope you didnt mind me posting the pics, but they were offered to me first
No problem Rob!!!
the overload indicator is directly behind your belt buckle....works like a dream
I was recently in Toronto on business from australia and a bit of a highlight was hulchers recovering a train wreck just north of the city.Using Sidebooms.It was a good spot with a bridge to stand on to watch the action.
and the pictures are where?..........................:beatsme
Just got to get my act together and resize them.It was a good afternoon though 4x sidebooms recovering a tank car.
Pictures man we want pictures.
Here is a couple of Side Booms
here is the boom i run on trainwrecks. when in use the boom is stright up and bolted together.
Hi trainwreck Quick question, is your side boom a side boom with a blade, or a dozer with a side boom? just wondering?
its a 583k sideboom with the blade added at the factory.
Got these at Toronto the other day at a place called Pickering.A bit of a bonus.First day in Canada and i get this.
more from Toronto
It was a good afternoon in Toronto.
Looks like they are really giving them a good workout. Thanks for sharing Martin
Credit it where its due. GREAT PICS! :beerchug thanks for posting.
Hello All, Could anyone elaborate the difference between 583 sideboom,561 sideboom and 572 sideboom with regard to their applications and other features
Here are a few of my pics of side booms from the Milford to Brecon 48" gas pipeline. I was heading up a team of As-built surveyors for my fathers surveying company. Loved being around proper sized metal and miss the pipeline scene badly! P.s If anyone would like to reproduce any images, please just ask!