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580d case

dugano ยท 2011-06-20 15:53

Steering pump on the drive shaft went out so we thougt.It would steer with the wheels off the ground but real hard.We replaced that and a steering cylinder and a hydraulic filter.Still will not steer but all the other hydraulics work fine,Also it does not seem to bleed the air out.We took out 10 gallon of oil and we put 5 back in and the tank is full up to the top.I was told it could be a relief valve or unloader valve.

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  1. #1alrman2011-06-20 17:25

    I have only ever seen 580D's use same oil for steering as hydraulic - & using tandem hydraulic pump. I just went to Casece to get some pics to assist you with your problem, & found listed a D model that has a seperate steering pump as per the C model......... So which do you have? & are you saying you have filled the hydraulic tank to the very top??? Or steering pump on RHS of engine? 10 gal could never come out of a reservior with a seperate pump....... but you just need to confirm your configeration for advise.

  2. #2dugano2011-06-20 18:24

    This does not have a power steering pump.The steering runs off the same system as the hydraulics.The tank I am talking about is the tank that holds the hydraulic fluid.

  3. #3alrman2011-06-20 22:52

    dugano, you could have problems trying to sort this out as the 580D is the only model that has the steering with seperate unloader valve. :spaz Did the steering suddenly stop working or gradually get worse? Does it have a small pilot line between the steering relief & unloader? You will need hyd test gauge & some experience would help..... Hyd spec for unloader is 2200psi minimum - but I can't recall where & how to test, (too many years gone by & I don't have a manual) short of teeing into delivery hose. Steering relief - no pilot pressure = 2050 - 2150psi with pilot pressure = 2850 - 3150psi Check the unloader oring #7 & there will be an orifice in piston #10 - make sure it is clear. Check orings & bu on cartridges on relief as well #14& 15 The needle & seat #10 & 12 could be worn . They are a PITA to adjust as you have to remove the pilot line & adapter to get to adjuster & refit to test Even after looking at all this, the problem could be in the orbital valve ............ :drinkup

  4. #4alrman2011-06-21 01:44

    Does this mean you replaced the orbital valve on the steering column? Was it new ? There are restrictor fittings on these - just wondering if you had noticed & fitted them in the correct locations.

  5. #5dugano2011-06-21 07:30

    Used but came off a working machine and we got the rstrictor fittings in the right place