Well the paving outfit, I have contracted hauled, for 3 years, has tightened their money. Well, they have quit furnishing us with releasing agent, to remove the asphalt, from the dump trucks. Question, what is everyone using (dont stay fuel oil, you know we arent allowed to use that LOL) I do know a guy that delivered a truck load, to a state paving job and the state inspector, sent him back, he smelled diesel fuel, around the dump bed. I have contacted several industrial solvent companies, Im waiting for their call. It tough, sometimes to remove asphalt stuck/hard in the bed. Im not new to hauling asphalt, but I am new to getting this crap off and out of the truck
I think one important thing to do would be to get a list of what your State considers acceptable. I've seen creams that look like hand lotion and a soapy water mixture at plants, neither of them work well. I worked for a paving company for a couple years and unless we were on an inspected job we'd lightly oil the body with a pump sprayer. On inspected jobs we'd use whatever the plant provided, but as I mentioned, none of them worked very well. After the job was over we'd oil the bodies up good and run some loads of stone with them to clean them out.
Thanks, Ill check on that
Just a thought, but did the stuff the paving company provide work? If so ask them what it is and where to get it.
They didnt provide the solvent to remove the setup asphalt, just the releasing solvent. Then the DOT wouldnt approve this and they are having to go with a very expensive releasing solvent and they will not let us have any of this. They are going to spray the beds, but they dont use much of it. This causes, the asphalt to setup and it takes fuel oil (or a approved solvent) to dissolve it. The paving company, at one time was providing the removal solvent, about a year ago, but no one remembers what it was. I just wondered what everyone else was doing, about this.
I remember a soy based product but I can't remember the name. I'll try to find it soon.
Sorry like I said it was just a thought but obviously not a very good one.
For an approved release agent or solvent try orange solvent. Orange solvent works almost as good as diesel. Buy it by the gallon then you can dilute it if necessary. We use orange solvent on the paver instead of diesel. Powdered laundry soap will work for a release agent on the bottom of the truck bed, just broadcast some detergent across the bed, however it won't dissolve hard asphalt. Telescooper
Thanks for that info, is this orange solvent something you get at like Home Depot, or is it a speciality item, that must come from a vender. Thanks
I've heard of Lanolin based release agents being used around here. Its seems that a patent is pending in the US for a lanolin release agent. Here's a link to the Orange stuff: http://thatorangestuff.com/ind.shtml This one is supposed to contain some lanolin: http://www.knoxnelsonoil.com/featured.html
Would a heated bed reduce sticking?
ASPHALT bed liner would work that is if you can afford it it is out of my price range right now . Last time I cjecked think that was range for a low of 3500.00 to a high around 5,000.00 OUCH!!!!! Here is a few : RELEASE AGENTS FOR USE ON HOT MIX ASPHALT (HMA) HAULING EQUIPMENT BRAND NAME SUPPLIER AND LOCATION(s) 039 Biodegradable Asphalt Release 044 Biodegradable Asphalt Release Chemite Waverly, NY 20:1 Asphalt Release Franmar Chemical, Inc. Normal, IL 29-AR Asphalt Release Agent NOCO Energy Corporation Kingston, NY Liverpool, NY Tonawanda, NY Williston, VT 2061-A 2061-B 2384-B 3597 8277 ChemStation International, Inc. Dayton, OH 37-SX-89 Tar Slide Selig Industries Atlanta, GA AP-50 Blue Diamond Black River Paper Company, Inc. Watertown, NY Aqua Slip® Chemtek, Inc. Yanceyville, NC AR-1 Asphalt Release Agent Dynasty Chemical Corporation Albany, NY AR-92 Emulso Corporation Buffalo, NY AS-Release 570154 AS-Release 570156 Asphalt Solutions Litchfield Park, AZ Asphalt Release Chem-Tech, Inc. Albertville, MN Asphalt Release Simoniz USA Bolton, CT Asphalt Release Agent The Bullen Companies, Inc. Folcroft, PA Asphalt Release AR-2000 Franklynn Industries, Inc. Loveland, OH BCS Polyglide BCS Release Agent SD Basic Chemical Solutions Redwood City, CA Big Red Texas Refinery Corporation Fort Worth, TX BIOACT AR-405 Petroferm Inc. Fernandina Beach, FL Bio-Kream Presto Chemical Company Roswell, GA Black Magic 13 Black Magic for Drag Slats Black Magic for Rubber Black Magic for Trucks The ChemMark Corporation Fort Worth, TX Blaw-Kote Ingersoll-Rand Company Chambersburg, PA Blue Line Chemsearch Irving, TX BR 549 Montgomery Manufacturing Company Kennedale, TX Buckeye Shopmaster Buckeye International Inc. Maryland Heights, MO CHEMSEARCH CONCENTRATE Chemsearch Irving, TX ChemStation 2061 ChemStation 2384 ChemStation 5563 ChemStation 5594 ChemStation, New England South Windsor, CT DART 4 Hill and Griffith Company Cincinnati, OH DIVER-SLIP DuBois Chemicals Cincinnati, OH EconoPave 1000 Economy Compounds, Inc. Crestwood, IL Empire Foam Plus Empire Slide Plus Empire Services Roswell, GA Enviro-Slide New England Marketing Consultants, Inc. Providence, RI E-Z-Go United Laboratories, Inc. St. Charles, IL FLOCULITE 600 DuBois Division of Diversey Corporation Cincinnati, OH Foaming Asphalt Release Commercial Maintenance Supply, Inc. Syracuse, NY GEOMELT® 55 Anti-Icing Fluid Horizon Products Muscatine, IA HD 5895 ChemStation, New England South Windsor, CT Hodgie’s Special Truck Bed Spray United Laboratories, Inc. St. Charles, IL Ice Ban Magic I.M.U.S., Inc. Gansevoort, NY Kwik-Release Presto Chemical Company Roswell, GA Mold Release Agent Solvents and Petroleum Service, Inc. Syracuse, NY M/M Asphalt-Release-DL Chemsearch Irving, TX NATURAL RELEASE Empire Services Roswell, GA No. 1 Asphalt Release Agent Compound Technologies, Inc. Cartersville, GA Phalt Free Empire 2000 Empire Services Roswell, GA Poly-Slip DuBois Chemicals, Inc. Cincinnati, OH Presti Slip Prestige Laboratories Inc. East Rutherford, NJ Professional VANI-SOL® Multi-Surface Concentrated Cleaner Reckitt Benckiser, Inc. Wayne, NJ Q-Slide 554 QualiChem Inc. Salem, VA RA-2 Golden West Industries, Inc. Price, UT Radi-aze Dubois Chemicals, Inc. Cincinnati, OH Release BT Industrial Controls Bronx, NY Release Compound, AT Concentrate Baums Castorine Company, Inc. Rome, NY Reliable Asphalt Release Reliable Products Corporation Canastota, NY R.C. 1-25 R.J.C. Environmental Services Bow, NH SLICK Arrow-Magnolia Dallas, TX SLIP N SLIDE Emulso Corporation Buffalo, NY Slipeazee 2000 Slipeazee Natural Slipeazee SB Rochester Midland Rochester, NY Soponol Surpass Chemical Company, Inc. Albany, NY SPX-7 Compound Technologies, Inc. Cartersville, GA SS-AR Asphalt Release Agent NOCO Energy Corporation Kingston, NY Liverpool, NY Tonawanda, NY Williston, VT S-Slide 766 QualiChem Inc. Salem, VA Super Slip Solar Chemicals Inc. Atlanta, GA Synthetic Release Industrial Controls Bronx, NY TBRA 7191 TBRA 8254 ArrMaz Custom Chemicals, Inc. Winter Haven, FL Tec-Shield Teclon-Pro Tec-Team Industries, Inc. Smyrna, GA Tomorrow Tuff-Act MicroBlend, LLC Morrow, GA Valvoline Cling Free Release Agent The Valvoline Company Lexington, KY Westech CT-1400 Westech CT-1440 Chem-Tech Solutions, Inc. Belmont, NC Zep Asphalt Release FA Zep Asphalt Release Freeze Free Zep Asphalt Release Special Mix Zep E2008 Asphalt Release (XT-3199) Zep R-5274 Zep R-6690 Zep Manufacturing Company Atlanta, GA
WOW, now that is information. Thanks
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asphault solvent Thanks guys, I bought some citrus orange releasing agent. It works good, maybe a little better than diesel fuel and it smells better. Kinda pricey $550 for 55 gal
CCS, I trust you've read the forum rules, especially the advertising policy: (I'm pointing it out because a lot of people apparently don't bother reading it before they post commercial solicitations.) Thanks for the information, and welcome to Heavy Equipment Forums.
I make it I worked for 18yrs as a chemist and we made release agent. Im starting my own business and am looking for sum people interested in maybe a trial. Typically we made water emulsifiable stuff but I do have sum similar to fuel oil(no petroleum) that you would apply just like fuel oil. Any help in developing some various products would be helpful. How much do you use each truckload? What prices you payin now?
willis you ever haul for REA they been pavin a section of new rd between blacksburg sc and york now thats the smoothest sectoin of rd i been on in along time
hauling I usually keep the trucks around home, eastern NC Thanks
What you need to do is spray a little bit of diesel, and mix it with a stronger sent to steer the inspectors away haha. Soap and water is what a lot of companies use but its useless. The only reason diesel isn't allowed is cause it degrades the asphalt but you still see the asphalt plant and many packers spray it on their surfaces which is humouring.
Willis, our paving crew is in the same boat. I know it sounds silly but the drivers spray water on their beds before loadout. It has been discovered that all those potions simply do not work any better. The closer to loadout the better. It works well on shorter runs, though. Also, for less than $100 you can get a 500,000-1,000,000 btu torch (commonly called a 'hawk' in the midwest) with a 20-40# lp tank and that will cut your end of day cleanup in half. It is legal to carry them in the cab here if they are secured. Check with your area's finest.
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asphalt cleanup I got some releasing agent from a chemical place. They gave me 5 gals of releasing and 5 gal of coating. It s smells like a orange, I dont remember what the name was, but they gave me this as a sample to get me to buy more. I hauled 3 loads of asphalt after that and never got chance to use it. The industrial cleaning companies should be able to get something for you
I've used the soapy release agent the plant gives you as well as the citrus smelling stuff and well neither of them work lol. With normal base/topping, Just a light coat of diesel on the bottom of the tailgate, apron and latches does the trick but it's a no-no on state jobs. That sticky crap (can't think of the name) that always seems to go to state jobs is a nightmare. Diesel won't even do the trick with that stuff. Just always try to hop in the bed and shovel it to the tailgate when it's still hot. Of course that goes for any asphalt.
Seen a place use Tied powder laundry soap.
any Idea how much a 55-gal drum is on average for asphalt release agent. Also any idea what ChemStation charges?
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