Don't know how it happened... but it did!
Texting while driving? :nono
Seen lots of 282,s in accidents at mine sites around the world. 1 truck to steer clear of me thinks
Nothing but a flesh wound. That'll polish out with a bit of T-Cut .......... Talking about texting while driving, our operators are forbidden to take their cell phones on to the machine with them. They have to leave them in the locker at the parking area. They're only allowed to use phones during approved breaks and only while off the machine. We had a guy ran a truck up a berm a while ago, fortunately without damaging either himslef or the truck. He said there had been a steering problem - we found a cell phone in his bag and checking his call reister he was on the phone at the time of the incident. He's now no longer with us ..........
Trucks are pretty good from what I've heard, I think it's the steering wheel attendants that cause the problems... Had the same thing Nige, with a chick who put a 630E over a windrow. Of course she said that she had steer problem. So then we have to strip whole steer system trying to find fault that didn't exist. During this process other operators spoke up and said she's always texting while driving. Didn't get window seat but should have!
I wised up on our incident which was on a loaded Cat 789 on the way to the dump. I got one of the Ops supervisors to witness it and the check went like this ..... 1. Look under the machine. Any leaks, tie-rods hanging off, nothing generally out of place..? No - move on. 2. Upstairs - check oil level in steering tank. OK. 3. Key on, let the machine boot up. Check VIMS for events. Last one was like 3 hours earlier. 4. Start up the engine and listen for the steering pump to cut out when the accumulators were charged up. Roughly 30 seconds so pump performance was acceptable. 5. Check tank oil level with accumulators charged. OK. 6. Pull wheel checks away and move steering from side to side at low idle to check for low steering pressure alarms. No. 7. Run truck to dump to check steering performance. Dump the load. 8. No fault found. Send the truck back to work. Total time - about 20 minutes.
Trust me Zed, the trucks are garbage! My guess as to the cause, would be a brake failure. Pretty common with those things. Driver was probably concentrating so hard on stopping the truck, that they didn't even think about steering around the other one.
Hopefully nobody was hurt, lucky to be empty if it was a brake issue
looks like a friday morning after a thirsty thursday special at the bar
And that'll get you canned any day of the week at our place. After an incident like this both operators would get drug/alcohol tested. Even the one who wasn't at fault would get canned if he or she tested positive.
Could have been fatigue related, just because the incident photo's show its daytime, doenst mean it happened then, operator easily could have fallen asleep and hit that other truck.
A dumptruck operator it was most likely boredom ..........
Mate your Avatar says it all, CAT..............
An avatar has phuck all to do with it when you have worked around T282,s and seen any number of different pics of em crashed on the net. Plenty of Cat trucks get crashed too, infact i am sure Cat trucks would be the most crashed of all brands. The 282 has a reputation that it won,t shake anytime soon but the equaliser is usually the steering wheel attendant or circlip.
Well I work with haul trucks, the operators cause the accidents not the trucks. Before any piece of mining equipment can be sold, it has to pass intentional safety standards.
I think taking a holier than thou attitude that trucks themselves don,t cause the acccidents is not keeping an open mind to the situation, mechanical failures happen, it,s that simple and if you work around haul trucks you should and would already know that. I have seen a number of T282,s burnt out aswell and i would think operators do not play much of a part in that.
put it this way, we have run x5 driverless 930E trucks in a 5 yr trial, now x5 more new truck have joined the other x5 and put side by side apart from the paint they look the same, no damaged steps or ladders cabs are brand new and everything works like new
I work with haul trucks too, and your comment appears to me to be a massive over-simplification. I assume you mean international safety standards not intentional BTW. Are operators responsible for accidents? - certainly. I have seen plenty of cases of operator error that has resulted in machine damage. Anything from a bent set of steps to a total write-off. Are machines responsible for accidents? - certainly. I have also seen plenty of cases where a machine failure has caused an operator to lose control and resulted in damage to the truck. This is usually (but not always) something to do with the brakes or steering system. So without knowing the exact circumstances of the incident that was originally posted we have no idea what was the root cause of why the two trucks ended up in a loving embrace, and unless we have an HEF member who actually works on that mine site we are not likely to. My 2 cents ........... As a PS I agree with Gav. The T282 got a reputation very early in the piece after it was first launched and that reputation, deserved or not at this particular moment in time, is still with it.
I'll agree to that in part. A lot of times, the operators are the cause, I don't think anyone will deny that. However, MANY, MANY times, we have seen the trucks being the cause of the accident as well. Especially when you are dealing with T282Bs. Drive system failures, and brake failures are not uncommon with those trucks. In the case of a drive system failure, there is basically nothing the operator can do, and they usually cause a runaway......and it's usually backwards, down a hill. Have you ever seen one of the pics of the trucks standing on end? That's caused by the drive system faulting out, the truck rolling backwards, and the operator having to hit the emergency braking, which pitches a loaded truck up onto it's rear tires. As for brake failures, they lose all but their emergency braking when a drive fault occurs usually, and you hope and pray that the emergency brakes are still there and haven't been used up and not reported. You have one true set of brakes on that truck, and they are for emergency use only. You get two applications with a loaded truck at speed, and then they are useless. **** poor design. And we have a dead truck driver to prove that point, but I won't get into that here. But to say that the trucks aren't the cause of some of the accidents, especially when dealing with these particular trucks.....is just plain, blatantly false.
Could it be there is more Cats out there? Hmmmm
That is likely why there are more of them crashed. The odds are in their favor.
You are reading between the lines i wrote and are correct
Lemonbears are rubbish. Qoute I've heard about the latest 282s with Liebherr's own drive system - "Goes pretty well, but components seem to explode out of nowhere." Dry brakes all round on a truck that big as well, not sure about the logic. Also, a good electric drive system will hardly ever lose retard capability, unless the operator is being a numpty and overspeeding a loaded or overloaded truck down a steep grade.