how do i tell what series or year model a old TD18 dozer is ..(i cant find any compliance plates etc) ..im looking at one this weekend cheers ken from Australia
Register on the Redpower bulletin board, go to the construction equipment subsection, and ask the good folks there. I'm sure the King and the others will help you! alan627b http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/
i'm here, just head over there and i'll met you there. there are a few guys that have the books to tell you the year. if you also use the search section on the BB you can find info from past postings. thansk KoO Published Author
Latter models had 3 speed with hi-lo
There are a few differences, early TD18 had the oil and fuel filters grouped together at the engine font left side, 3 filters in a row. TD18A seperated the filters with 2 oil at end front and 2 fuel at engine rear, still left side. 181 & 182 series both had boxed track frames, an oil bath air filter, 181 still has 2 exhaust, single pipe is 182. I have seen some late TD18A's that had boxed track frames but not the oil bath.....should be a rough guide to identifing. Good luck While IH didn't go to any trouble to match engine serial # to the machine they are usually close enough if the engine has never beeen changed, look for a flat casting boss on the side of the block with a stamped number.....
hardtail, i see that you are up early this afternoon, LOL thansk KoO Published Author
Yes and by the spelling in my post obviously not enough sleep:Banghead
that is ok hardtail, any reply even spelt wrong is ok. you seem to pay attention to details were as i want to know how much it will pull. as long as it runs and go forward and can start when it is cold that is the main thing. year, colour and how much chrome doesn't matter to me, LOL. can you post a picture of yours, i think yours is newer then mine because i'm the KING of OBSOLETE, lol. thansk KoO Published Author
Heres a couple of a 181 dually had to provide evidence to southern sceptics that they actually run...............
thanks for that guys.. me & a mate just bought a little AC HD7 we are doing up ..but theres also a old TD18 closeby thats going cheap.its cable blade possibly ex army(maybe WW2) as a few panels are still green ..i had a TD18a for a short while in the mid 90s ..not a bad old mid size machine
Caught in the wet and hard at work.
Ron G is gonna love those period photos, must be an early 18, don't see those cable arms on later units, looks like it's puffin nice pushin scraper :drinkup
im looking at a TD18a tomorrow .. anyone know the year of changover from TD18 to TD18a ? .. also if the cables are overhead is that usually earlier or later than the "side arm" type cables? cheers ken
I should start posting some of my old pics here Lance but everyone would really know how old I am,huh?Ron G
here is one of my td-18s. http://kingofobsolete.ca/TD-18_INTERNATIONAL_DUALLY_WEBPAGE.htm thansk KoO Published Author
Old enough to know better but young enough to want to do it again.......LOL I think the O/H cables maybe even earlier, although it could be just different designs, lots of different rigging found their way on these machines.......I think 18A started around 1949.
i looked at a TD18a today ..the numbers on the plate are tdr 276-77 can anyone give me a rough idea of what year it would be? cheers ken
That doesn't seem like the right #'s should be something like TCBM29756........
that was top number on the compliance plate ..the dozer actually seemed in reasonable condition..except the old cable blade & winch is about stuffed
1952, dozer might be able to be reskinned, CCU needs work?
cool so those numbers mean something? (were the only numbers i could easily find without using wirebrush or sandpaper to make sense of the engine numbers or something).. dozer reskinned? .. .. it has a logging winch & a smaller winch for the blade connected via chain the owner says when used it doesnt stop (thats why he has the cable for the blade disconnected).. rest of dozer looks good for its age excellent pins/chains etc ..has hydrolic assist for the steering clutches..doesnt seem to be a 181 0r 182 series (hasnt the "boxed" track frames).. the old girl is going for $4500 ..apparently thats scrap value ..shes about 100 miles from my fathers property where i will park her so i can play with it cheers ken
Hi Ken, The 14s & 18s weren't as common here as the 5,6 & 9 machines. There are very few parts suppliers ,so you'll pay good $$ for parts,unless you can locate one in the bush somewhere.They are more common in NSW/Qld outback places,I think. I sell parts for the smaller IH machines,but rarely get parts requests for 14s & 18s....& few get offered to me. Could have bought a good going (hydraulic blade) 18 a few years ago for $6500... I think scrap prices dropped recently...last I heard was $250 tonne for small lots. Jim
Sounds like it might be a mismatch:beatsmehydraulic steering boosters first appeared on 181 series but they had boxed track frames and an oil bath......hows it running a real winch and CCU.........CCU off the front? But then you wouldn't need pipe and cable from the back........pics required
i forgot to take pics :~ best way i can describe the old girl is has a hydrolic resevoir at rear of motor,then the pump front side of motor.with the hoses going to the rear to the steering clutches..the petrol tank is up towards the front of the motor .. still has the twin exhaust stacks ...if its a 1952 model then im guessing its bordering on the first of the 181 series?(whenever they first came out) .. cheers ken
Yup that sounds like the booster setup, 181 started in 1955, gas tank was mounted just in front of the booster reservoir to the rear of the engine, are the floorboards sunken down abit with the air cleaner in the center of the dash or the floor is flat all the way across??
the aircleaner sits atop the dash panel i think the floor is flat from memory ..it looks like i will buy this old girl
Jim, i am also in australia, looking for a waterpump for a TD18A not sure if you be able to help, or able to tell me what waterpumps would fit, eg. do TD18-182 pumps fit on the older models. its looks like the pump has a casting number of 251208R2, engine number is TDRM36487. Cheers, Paul
Hardtail, you forgot to mention that the 14 was backed out of the way AFTER it pushed the 18........... To clear things up a bit, their was basicly 5 versions of the 18, the first was a short production run the the earlie 18 a easy way to id it was the air cleaner was under the hood on the left side (as viewed from the seat) near the fire wall. It had a sunken floor operator station. The next version, the 18 had the air cleaner in the operator station, as did the 18A, again the platform was sunken. Their is a few small changes between the 18 and 18A oil filters is one, but they could be upgraded, something to keep in mind. The 181 had a square box air cleaner under the hood on the side, it also had a flat platform. The 182 finaly got rid of the dual stacks...it became a SINGEL stacker, the air cleaner was a square box under the hood as the 181, and had a flat platform. and for the record ALL 18's had oil bath air cleaners (factory equiped). And one more thing SINGELS are COOL!!!!!!!!!!!! :notworthy
Hi Dr. Ernie, Not sure what to make our machine, its model say TD18A, but serial is TD18 181, are the 181 still classed as TD18A? Please see pic of plate on firewall. http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=71333
Yes the plate will read TD18A 181, 181 was the second last series of the TD18's run, years will be 1955/6. Any luck on finding that waterpump? You have the last REAL dual stacker..........LOL